X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:30:46 GMT From: falcon AT ivan DOT Harhan DOT ORG (Spacefalcon the Outlaw) Message-Id: <1507300330.AA07472@ivan.Harhan.ORG> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Converting footprints from PADS to PCB Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Erich Heinzle wrote: > Even better than using a background image is snapping to features. > > The gerber -> footprint method allows new tracks to be snapped to the > locations of pad locations derived from the gerber. For the quadband version the components will need to be arranged in a totally different way than how they are arranged in Openmoko's triband design, so the old locations of footprints relative to each other won't be of any use, only the individual footprints in themselves. OTOH, if we are going to build the first prototype as triband, copying Openmoko, then I say that copying the original element pad locations and then having to redraw the traces by hand isn't enough automation - why not copy/translate the connecting line/polygon/via geometry from the historical gerbers as well? Speaking of vias, they are blind and buried in the original. The drill structure of Openmoko's 8-layer board is L1-L2, L2-L3, L3-L6, L6-L7, L7-L8. From what I remember, someone made a patch for PCB to support blind & buried vias, but it was never integrated - probably because it wasn't the general solution which the purists demand. Translating Om's modem layout into PCB would require resurrecting that patch and using it in a private fork. As an additional observation, I don't know of any other Calypso GSM cellphone or modem design that was done without blind/buried vias - all of the ones I've examined use them. SF