X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aqhrQeYvoAT/V/agE6jrknwcZjHPxRqQ96ZgxOyQLuw=; b=iv+1Lr8OsekFyp707GaGFX21SKn8eyJJCELkN4bcFhq7k0UhpEvIM4cTCGlUpKSOLu bT71hfz2eUEwQVTw8ufq1IBBaGrIvOCH9c4+niC8qH0+tP0OjzwEjUVCmw2kzPkMn8ES g85vbZYIdFl22H9K06EYCzmdJ5fkNjKR2IeGty4pd3CUIlsxkcwqRz4i3KfdxlrdZuoy u7+poXioxHeZfDb8bqV0HOgYbIOxL3lfrPnY8xJdcF1W+gLsdoQMadxkSLLZYeJC/091 0fbLOmST4bB9B4fFPJLl1Rd8qxCUm69t7ASUwoHIt0Bn2j/rPRmTpEL29UumlUZb7Yri sACQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.16.133 with SMTP id g5mr13616734oed.66.1435583013021; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:03:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1435581145.1447.19.camel@ssalewski.de> References: <1435510363 DOT 682 DOT 26 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <55902AB9 DOT 9000004 AT neurotica DOT com> <20150629113018 DOT GH19654 AT fi DOT muni DOT cz> <1435581145 DOT 1447 DOT 19 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:33:32 +0930 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] gEDA/gschem still alive? From: "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com)" To: geda-user Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122a222896d330519a7b7a2 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --089e0122a222896d330519a7b7a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Experienced users can always roll their own footprints, but I feel that we are likely to attract more new users if our footprint repositories runneth over... otherwise I fear it will just be text editor wielding ascetics that are tempted to take up gEDA/gaf. My 2c worth. Erich. On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 13:30 +0200, Jan Kasprzak wrote: > > gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > > : > > > > It would be helpful to be able to denote attributes of the endpoints of > nets, > > such as "there would be high current flowing between these two > endpoints", > > so that in the PCB design phase I would know that some part of the net > should > > be drawn using thicker lines. > > > > Yes -- we discussed that some years ago on this list. For gschem and my > Peted clone we can already assign arbitrary attributes to net segments. > For Peted I do intent to make that assignment "easy" -- maybe a special > assignment mode where you simple click on a net segment and the > corresponding attribute is assigned each. More difficult is inspection, > we may want to see all nets with a assigned "power" attribute, but > generally we do not want to pollute the schematic with hundreds of > "power" text labels. Maybe we could have a list with all the attributes, > and when we select an item in the list, all nets with that attribute are > high lighted. Generally that net information should be transfered to > PCB, so when we route a net manually in PCB, for power nets > automatically a thick trace is used. I was told that old gnetlist did > not transfer attributes to PCB unfortunately, but maybe the new python > netlist generator may do it. Have you more concrete ideas how the whole > process may work? > > > The barrier for using and enhancing the gedasymbols.org library should > be > > lowered > > OK, that is addressed to DJ and the other developers/maintainers. My > personal impression is, that generally professional PCB developers > hesitate to use symbols and footprints from foreign sources... > > > --089e0122a222896d330519a7b7a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Experienced users can always roll their own footprint= s, but I feel that we are likely to attract more new users if our footprint= repositories runneth over... otherwise I fear it will just be text editor = wielding ascetics that are tempted to take up gEDA/gaf.

M= y 2c worth.

Erich.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Stefan= Salewski <mail AT ssalewski DOT de> wrote:
On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 13:30 +0200, Jan Kasprzak wrote:
> gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:<= br> > :
>
> It would be helpful to be able to denote attributes of the endpoints o= f nets,
> such as "there would be high current flowing between these two en= dpoints",
> so that in the PCB design phase I would know that some part of the net= should
> be drawn using thicker lines.
>

Yes -- we discussed that some years ago on this list. For gschem and= my
Peted clone we can already assign arbitrary attributes to net segments.
For Peted I do intent to make that assignment "easy" -- maybe a s= pecial
assignment mode where you simple click on a net segment and the
corresponding attribute is assigned each. More difficult is inspection,
we may want to see all nets with a assigned "power" attribute, bu= t
generally we do not want to pollute the schematic with hundreds of
"power" text labels. Maybe we could have a list with all the attr= ibutes,
and when we select an item in the list, all nets with that attribute are high lighted. Generally that net information should be transfered to
PCB, so when we route a net manually in PCB, for power nets
automatically a thick trace is used. I was told that old gnetlist did
not transfer attributes to PCB unfortunately, but maybe the new python
netlist generator may do it. Have you more concrete ideas how the whole
process may work?

> The barrier for using and enhancing the gedasymbols.org library shoul= d be
> lowered

OK, that is addressed to DJ and the other developers/maintainers. My=
personal impression is, that generally professional PCB developers
hesitate to use symbols and footprints from foreign sources...



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