X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at neurotica.com Message-ID: <4EDC636D.4030909@neurotica.com> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 01:23:41 -0500 From: Dave McGuire User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: AVRs and Pennsylvania, was Re: [geda-user] Re: I won't do BGA's References: <4EC9CE99 DOT 5040303 AT industromatic DOT com> <4ED27309 DOT 6030100 AT ecosensory DOT com> <20111127231842 DOT 3FD9B81F6262 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <4ED30BB2 DOT 8030301 AT ecosensory DOT com> <20111128075947 DOT F0D6681F6266 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <4ED36081 DOT 5080507 AT ecosensory DOT com> <20111202101147 DOT 04de74dd DOT attila AT kinali DOT ch> <9E8604A1-E961-43F6-91C9-A5E4C1719248 AT noqsi DOT com> <4EDA4BF9 DOT 7080904 AT neurotica DOT com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id pB56OH5E008293 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On 12/03/2011 11:47 AM, Bob Paddock wrote: > 4.3.4 is still the official recommended version. Jörg wants people > to test the 4.6.x stuff. > I'd skip anything in 4.4 and 4.5. > Bingo's conical build script is here: > http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=42631&postdays=0&postorder=asc > Unless you have a very new part that is not supported, there is not a > lot of reason to use the newer stuff for the AVR. > > Do make sure you are up to date on all of the patches, and using the > latest version of AVR-LibC. 1.7.0 had all of the delay functions > broken. > I document a particularly nasty problem with the XMega here: > http://blog.softwaresafety.net/2011/02/anatomy-of-race-condition-toyota-vs-avr.html Wow, ugh. I'm currently running avrlibc v1.7.1. My stuff seems to work fine with GCC v4.4.6...the reason I'm on that release is because I build all of my cross-compilers from the same build script for consistency, for ARM, x86, m68k, PPC, and SPARC, as well as AVR. I will see about testing my build script with the GCC 4.6.x branch soon. >> Heh. I'd quit. ;) > > I've thought of it. Even thought of going out on my own, problem is I > don't know how to answer the question "Where are your customers going > to come from?". Craigslist is a good start. There are lots of small, non-suitly companies who need work done, and they all start there when looking for talent. >> Dave McGuire >> New Kensington, PA > > Thought you where in Florida? Your only about 70 miles from me now. Hey, perhaps we can get together! I needed to get out of Florida; I was sick of starving to death due to the lack of work, and paying $700/mo power bills. My fiancee and I were able to score a biggish (~14K sq. ft.) commercial building in a really fun area just outside of Pittsburgh. The price was unbelievably low, a fraction of what people typically pay for even a mediocre house; I will NEVER live in a "house" again. No space, tiny doorways and hallways, no three-phase power...definitely not geek-compatible. Commercial buildings "for the win". Over time, we'll be constructing our residence in the top floor, where I'll also have my office and lab, and downstairs I'll build a vintage computing museum in which to show off my goodies. (older Crays, DEC PDP-8/10/11/14 machines, some vintage tube analog computers, etc) For now we sleep in a tiny apartment around the corner, and we have temporary office and workspace set up in our building. From a work standpoint it has been fantastic...after a decade of barely scraping by (and getting utilities turned off left and right), I landed the best job I've had in fifteen years literally within HOURS of actually starting to look. Pittsburgh has a strange reputation that I just don't understand, but it's possibly the most beautiful city I've ever seen, and it's a fantastic place for a tech geek to be. -Dave -- Dave McGuire New Kensington, PA