X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dExAgcAJ17dYjFfV4z48txT3IXbbiYsm4PDqjMdTGjI=; b=QzAPmhrn2ENYobcQ6OGo6nl3ObeeqkHrNZvl5yxi6108zv1CAUkJ+uPKBnQ9+Cv/O/ IP0XTgUCIqA/fs8dHSmXBuAnTgTJAKa4QJEks7HoN/papy4d4OVTwtZtJzG02+5R6gD7 3Og764KzS0fjTn4HD0i5h6XXbiiuJY27kVd4U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20111117204524 DOT 10e586f5 AT rainbird> <4EC5CBEE DOT 5060904 AT optonline DOT net> <20111117225359 DOT 2fcf159a AT rainbird> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:16:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Modern GAL/PAL design with gEDA? From: Charles Lepple To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id pAIEGiJk000666 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:47 AM, wrote: > Unlike FPGAs, a GAL22V10 requires no special  secrets to program.  An > FAE once showed me how to decode the JEDEC file using publicly > available information.  So theoretically someone _could_ write an open > source compiler for it - but no one has. Steve Williams (author of Icarus Verilog) started to put together some tools for working with PAL chips: http://www.icarus.com/eda/ipal/ While I don't think the code currently does the logic reduction necessary to compile a new design, there are a number of description files which translate between the fuse bit numbers and the logical functions. For a 22V10, see pa/pal22v10.pa for functional descriptions of the macrocells, and some of the other files (with "dip" or "plcc" in the name) for mappings to pin numbers. -- - Charles Lepple