X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Thermals: size problem, SMD To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: From: "Richard Rasker (rasker AT linetec DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:52:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Hello DJ, Op 12-07-18 om 22:36 schreef DJ Delorie: > "Richard Rasker (rasker AT linetec DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" > writes: >> 1: When I create small vias with a thermal, e.g. 0.3 mm drill width, >> 0.15 mm annulus width and 0.15 mm clearing, the resulting four thermal >> connections to the surrounding copper plane get so narrow (just below >> 0.125 mm), that my PCB manufacturer flags a warning. > The Thermal[] entry in your *.pcb sets the thermal ratio; the default is > 0.5. > > http://pcb.geda-project.org/pcb-4.1.2/pcb.html#Thermal-syntax OK, this goes some way to explain things. And I see that the actual thermal finger width is always very slightly less than the ration mentioned, so a clearance gap of 0.13 mm (not 0.15 as mentioned above) results in a finger width of 0.124 mm. Which is why my PCB house complains... >> 2: SMD thermals, or the lack thereof. If I really need thermals, I >> create tiny rectangles without clearance (S key) to connect pads to the >> surrounding copper planes. > Lack thereof. Technically possible, but difficult to guess what kinds > of thermals work for the wide range of SMD pad shapes and groupings. Yes, I gathered this already from earlier information here. One important question still is if (and when) those SMD thermals are necessary, recommended, or merely a matter of preference. I see the use in case I want to be able to take certain components off with soldering tweezers, but otherwise I never had any structural problems with component pads fully connected to the surrounding copper plane. Best regards, Richard Rasker