X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sendgrid.net; h=subject:to:references:from:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpapi; bh=ZqC/A/UiSKGBntmzmFvdLdjBAXc=; b=RaxlMqyodbC2QcgQ1o eaECxRY0WMXbRkX8F++tPRKm0yq+nI7gaDW5Ycchk+ELCSntMxrrtRKJ7B5rwvRa nrALxd1wRQ17qdH6Wct8LLIEkUzYJObDNL+ZkHy/qSb9mvptjEabXjyfmvroEIL9 KPM9Sw9pyiOXAaA8X2z/J51zE= Subject: Re: [geda-user] We are about to alienate users was -> geda-gaf fork To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <8BA67AB8-DB7F-4B97-BB34-CDBF543BE33F AT noqsi DOT com> From: "John Griessen (john AT ecosensory DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:22:27 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8BA67AB8-DB7F-4B97-BB34-CDBF543BE33F@noqsi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed X-SG-EID: V53lTA/kUP1+IqXnzXuv0M/cu/N8aMtf7nxyAyKnAkuRsE/lkmULQGf6B0sHGlBB66VOXmpm6mCPEC ilN+JcjvaTD8ctYuvDBTCLwFKMa0PFdhKLdSRfR6ySs5yOrLGNmcQ6V3gNrffHdrdkNI1IINCV5owj 98DVYi9HYpEhi2C9t9j9A8PjR18/iJ5TEunv1vtIdZDQ0NnUwaZsrLNQbE43gJTQ6pJt0+pXl2OILL Q= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id v1FIMUOB005157 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On 02/15/2017 11:46 AM, John Doty wrote: >> > That kind of setup would attract >> > more users that don't want to code on the tools, just use them, (and test them…). > I can’t understand why any such users would choose gEDA Oh, there are tons of engineers that can: see the benefit of a makefile driven method, know that customizable matters for driving tools to make layout and schematics, think that a directory full of files is a plenty good organization method for a project, can do engineering on linux or windows or OS-X, but stop at script writing since they are developing circuits or whole products and there's a lot to do... Sure, that leaves out people who think makefiles and project dirs are "too fussy", and it still leaves a ton of engineers and some hobbyists. Those hobbyists would be the hacker type, which includes coding. There are quite a few of those too. It's not a bleak landscape at all.