X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=BIE7ON3CfVT9CbnXW5eq7VJwLgphAHrEeS4hAklSJAQ=; b=p78iFo+x6kLqPUBG0vj1uC9+poe7Hqe5NdzxtLbv/FAMkivpHtP/rx/KbMk9kd25iw C85y+NyqUN5D2Oy4wQee6H2h04InpdWHHKeBFs770QIUYFZIdc7lgMGxKV9tmyzEdQPx kUQkWkyOO92ZMcq0d95LOb4OtG0LpeDQ0ZChJBB8R0ftTaSQt/wyVtE1hRHWQJsnbJ0B H9jFEkO2hFQrTziP2y8ObrmKWqijDwAiqEa4Z67QSahYsKchDlGDYyznywWIb0BxMRdB WyA19h5uwFWhcsZIH1ZNszBlpAEJ/4bhNe3AZEMwOa19lYbHNEfn7A+KUww1/actNJwf ZoqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BIE7ON3CfVT9CbnXW5eq7VJwLgphAHrEeS4hAklSJAQ=; b=P/i2KdkTSb4pI4+fhWBE1Weo1KuLsoaHv2wpFwZJAwj0eJw+IKJMGIlZJiLCuP9WTO 8q/rjrV1WjmTr7BKQIFi4zLRaOJwjW0z29ESYPJUMP0j8SkCg9qHrPKn95pSA47hjm4+ Rd4Izwus8VbzeOYk9bnetZI3nG959Ds4ldzDP7We9pcGO4S7g/2pJrzobNJylKyoaAxJ gmIonO5kuhdYqYGnsdsAIsiHT/XOnPyMoiuNTdHT4VUE0Mwkgd0JMWsB1lctjq8Q+ACZ GFXHlFQampy0MG59QlGh7XVtTKieUv7uASISjp+6Xf74OwohwAtJcr4bJmmlr2nve0qK Bo6A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk+0xYF8dv9HP2CibAkCfCIGSzn5QH3fwEU1Jt4n//RRk3BSgPKy/7p8gh+NOCZvgOZawPHMOjbSdMvXRRnpJuu6bhyqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.129.203 with SMTP id 194mr33956202qhb.57.1453131340059; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 07:35:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:35:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] [pcb] poll: burried/blind vias vs. pcb and pcb-rnd From: "Marvin Dickens (mpdickens AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11466cb6561b0b05299d81a1 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --001a11466cb6561b0b05299d81a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Igor2! Yes. I am using an Expensive, well known EDA package to deal with designs that require blind and buried via's. Thank you for your time and expertise! Regards Marvin On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:32 AM, wrote: > Hi all, > > after some more code reading I found a way to add support for > burried/blind vias in pcb-rnd with reasonable effort, without first having > to rewrite everything and/or inventing new file formats. This could be the > next big feature in pcb-rnd. > > My only problem is that I do not really feel the need for this feature and > I don't want to spend time developing features that wouldn't be used. I am > not sure about other users, tho. If you are interested, please answer these > questions with yes/no, unless specified otherwise (comments are also > welcome after the yes/no). You can send your answer in private if you want > to reduce list traffic. I will collect answers this week and will publish > anonimized results. > > Please focus on answering the questions - see disclaimer at the bottom; I > will ignore posts that attempt to derail the thread and encourage everyone > else to do the same. > > Note: "you" means personally you, not your friends or subcontractors. > > POLL: > > 1. How many of your boards REQUIRE burried or blind vias? [percentage] > > 2. How many of your boards could BENEFIT burried or blind vias? > [percentage] > > 3. When your board REQUIRED them, do you more often find a workaround to > stick with pcb instead of switching to another design tool? [yes/no] > > 4. When your board could BENEFIT using them, do you more often find a > workaround to stick with pcb instead of switching to another design tool? > [yes/no] > > 5. Have you ever tried pcb-rnd? [yes/no] > > 6. Would you try pcb-rnd if it offered blind/burried vias? [yes/no] > > 7. Would you consider switching to pcb-rnd if it offered blind/burried > vias? [yes/no] > > 8. Approximately how many boards have you done so far with pcb (pcb > mainline/branches/forks included, using gschem/gnetlist not required)? "1 > board done" means you had one or more physical copies of the board. [rough > estimation, positive integer] > > 9. Approximately how many boards have you done with other packages? [rough > estimation, positive integer] > > 10. What OS would you prefer to do your pcb layouts on (assuming your > favorite layout tool is/would be available on it)? [one of: (GNU/)Linux, > *BSD, OSX, windows, other; if you like more, select the one you would spend > most time on!] > > > > ANTI-NOISE DISCLAIMER: this mail has nothing to do with: > - gschem/libgeda/gnetlist; > - pcb file format preferences; > - programming languages; > - VCS, development workflow preferences; > - integration vs. toolkit; > - "how broken pcb is"; > - "how perfect geda/gaf is". > If you think you've found a part that does have a connection to any of > these topics, please DO NOT reply to that part or make a new thread with a > new subject and move the specific part there. > > > TIA, > > Igor2 > --001a11466cb6561b0b05299d81a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Igor2!

Yes.

I am using an Expensive, well known EDA package to deal with designs that = require
blind and buried via's.=C2=A0

Thank you for your time and expertise!

Regards

Marvin


On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:32 AM, <= span dir=3D"ltr"><gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote:
Hi all,

after some more code reading I found a way to add support for burried/blind= vias in pcb-rnd with reasonable effort, without first having to rewrite ev= erything and/or inventing new file formats. This could be the next big feat= ure in pcb-rnd.

My only problem is that I do not really feel the need for this feature and = I don't want to spend time developing features that wouldn't be use= d. I am not sure about other users, tho. If you are interested, please answ= er these questions with yes/no, unless specified otherwise (comments are al= so welcome after the yes/no). You can send your answer in private if you wa= nt to reduce list traffic. I will collect answers this week and will publis= h anonimized results.

Please focus on answering the questions - see disclaimer at the bottom; I w= ill ignore posts that attempt to derail the thread and encourage everyone e= lse to do the same.

Note: "you" means personally you, not your friends or subcontract= ors.

POLL:

1. How many of your boards REQUIRE burried or blind vias? [percentage]

2. How many of your boards could BENEFIT burried or blind vias? [percentage= ]

3. When your board REQUIRED them, do you more often find a workaround to st= ick with pcb instead of switching to another design tool? [yes/no]

4. When your board could BENEFIT using them, do you more often find a worka= round to stick with pcb instead of switching to another design tool? [yes/n= o]

5. Have you ever tried pcb-rnd? [yes/no]

6. Would you try pcb-rnd if it offered blind/burried vias? [yes/no]

7. Would you consider switching to pcb-rnd if it offered blind/burried vias= ? [yes/no]

8. Approximately how many boards have you done so far with pcb (pcb mainlin= e/branches/forks included, using gschem/gnetlist not required)? "1 boa= rd done" means you had one or more physical copies of the board. [roug= h estimation, positive integer]

9. Approximately how many boards have you done with other packages? [rough = estimation, positive integer]

10. What OS would you prefer to do your pcb layouts on (assuming your favor= ite layout tool is/would be available on it)? [one of: (GNU/)Linux, *BSD, O= SX, windows, other; if you like more, select the one you would spend most t= ime on!]



ANTI-NOISE DISCLAIMER: this mail has nothing to do with:
- gschem/libgeda/gnetlist;
- pcb file format preferences;
- programming languages;
- VCS, development workflow preferences;
- integration vs. toolkit;
- "how broken pcb is";
- "how perfect geda/gaf is".
If you think you've found a part that does have a connection to any of = these topics, please DO NOT reply to that part or make a new thread with a = new subject and move the specific part there.


TIA,

Igor2

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