X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Envelope-From: paubert AT iram DOT es Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:01:18 +0100 From: "Gabriel Paubert (paubert AT iram DOT es) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] [pcb] poll: burried/blind vias vs. pcb and pcb-rnd Message-ID: <20160118110118.GA27796@visitor2.iram.es> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spamina-Bogosity: Unsure X-Spamina-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spamina-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-1.5 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: repo.hu] -0.5 BAYES_05 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 1 to 5% [score: 0.0306] Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 08:32:09AM +0100, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > Hi all, > > after some more code reading I found a way to add support for > burried/blind vias in pcb-rnd with reasonable effort, without first > having to rewrite everything and/or inventing new file formats. This > could be the next big feature in pcb-rnd. > > My only problem is that I do not really feel the need for this > feature and I don't want to spend time developing features that > wouldn't be used. I am not sure about other users, tho. If you are > interested, please answer these questions with yes/no, unless > specified otherwise (comments are also welcome after the yes/no). > You can send your answer in private if you want to reduce list > traffic. I will collect answers this week and will publish > anonimized results. > > Please focus on answering the questions - see disclaimer at the > bottom; I will ignore posts that attempt to derail the thread and > encourage everyone else to do the same. > > Note: "you" means personally you, not your friends or subcontractors. > > POLL: > > 1. How many of your boards REQUIRE burried or blind vias? [percentage] 0 > > 2. How many of your boards could BENEFIT burried or blind vias? > [percentage] > <5% (maybe more in the future) > 3. When your board REQUIRED them, do you more often find a > workaround to stick with pcb instead of switching to another design > tool? [yes/no] > N/A. > 4. When your board could BENEFIT using them, do you more often find > a workaround to stick with pcb instead of switching to another > design tool? [yes/no] > No (probably contracting layout to someone else who's not a PCB user). > 5. Have you ever tried pcb-rnd? [yes/no] No. > > 6. Would you try pcb-rnd if it offered blind/burried vias? [yes/no] > No (I don't consider blind/buried vias the main advantage of pcb-rnd, I might try it when my next design start comes, but decided not to switch in the middle of a design). > 7. Would you consider switching to pcb-rnd if it offered > blind/burried vias? [yes/no] No (I might switch but not for this reason). > > 8. Approximately how many boards have you done so far with pcb (pcb > mainline/branches/forks included, using gschem/gnetlist not > required)? "1 board done" means you had one or more physical copies > of the board. [rough estimation, positive integer] > 20 > 9. Approximately how many boards have you done with other packages? > [rough estimation, positive integer] > 4, but only PCB since 2004 or so, not counting the subcontracted layouts. > 10. What OS would you prefer to do your pcb layouts on (assuming > your favorite layout tool is/would be available on it)? [one of: > (GNU/)Linux, *BSD, OSX, windows, other; if you like more, select the > one you would spend most time on!] > Linux > > > ANTI-NOISE DISCLAIMER: this mail has nothing to do with: > - gschem/libgeda/gnetlist; > - pcb file format preferences; > - programming languages; > - VCS, development workflow preferences; > - integration vs. toolkit; > - "how broken pcb is"; > - "how perfect geda/gaf is". > If you think you've found a part that does have a connection to any > of these topics, please DO NOT reply to that part or make a new > thread with a new subject and move the specific part there. > > > TIA, > > Igor2