X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 08:21:50 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: igor2 AT igor2priv To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Debug: to=geda-user AT delorie DOT com from="gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" From: gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu Subject: Re: gEDA and it's future with Scheme & Guile was Re: [geda-user] Project leadership In-Reply-To: <73273554-3E38-4F1F-9423-F731753B41D8@noqsi.com> Message-ID: References: <8444F816-17CE-4A56-A982-4A60DEDA72B8 AT noqsi DOT com> <2297464D-0109-4CA8-98D5-AC33BD0B02C5 AT noqsi DOT com> <73273554-3E38-4F1F-9423-F731753B41D8 AT noqsi DOT com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote: > > On Dec 29, 2015, at 11:28 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > >>> >>> I?ve never found a serious limitation in geda-gaf abstractions. >> >> I have. See the mailing list traffic of the past few hours. > > What schematic object have you been unable to capture in the geda-gaf schematics? What circuit have you been unable to design? All I see is complaints about the work flow, not the underlying abstractions. Those are fully up to designing PCBs, ASICs, plumbing, makefiles, ... Gschem fails to handle (find, zoom onto, list, highlight, etc.) nets by name. I consider this a bug. It keeps me from, guess, finding, jumping onto nets using the GUI. This, together with another shortcoming about how to handle projects with multiple schs, keeps me from fully exploiting back annotation. Simplest example: pin 1 of U5 is connected to Vcc, and it shouldn't be. Gschem can't navigate me to all occurances where this happens so that I can easily walk thrhough them and fix them. Instead, I manually have to crawl through all schs and find somtimes very hidden connections (e.g. burried in net attributes of heavy symbols) I know you don't need this GUI feature. I do need it. Random EEs I know are likely to agree with me.