X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_39119D37-1B2B-4A81-8A47-A90862A8BB10"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: gEDA and it's future with Scheme & Guile was Re: [geda-user] Project leadership X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 00:15:19 -0700 Message-Id: <7A3F27EB-8343-4640-BB6A-24E6AF821768@noqsi.com> References: <20151229212943 DOT 2d486c8c AT wind DOT levalinux DOT org> <322D36D8-DAB6-4117-B22B-8FF515B00D2B AT noqsi DOT com> <31E7B3E3-873F-4BA3-ADE7-6A5C48F0578D AT noqsi DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_39119D37-1B2B-4A81-8A47-A90862A8BB10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Dec 29, 2015, at 11:01 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On Dec 29, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>=20 >>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 5:02 AM, John Doty wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 9:44 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Your current agenda: >>>>>=20 >>>>> 1. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN GEDA. >>>>=20 >>>> And yet I have stated that I approve of Vladimir?s plans. So your = understanding is faulty. >>>=20 >>> Of course they promise no changes to functionality >>=20 >> If more of the code was in Scheme, scripting would have more access. = We could stop arguing and make personalities for different flows more = easily. If more of gnetlist was in Scheme, I?d have implemented bus = netlisting by now. So yes, we?d get more functionality. >=20 > Not as long as scripting is limited to scheme. I said I=92d have implemented it. I don=92t have a problem with Scheme. > In theory anyone can learn scheme and use it happily ever after. In = practice this just does not seem to happen. So, switch to Xorn as your foundation, or convince a Schemer to = implement what you want. >=20 > The plugin approach is a good one. I was for it in PCB (I even = requested -rdynamic in the old days to make plugins more generic). I = implemented scirpting for PCB. I do think a lot of user stuff should = happen in scripts. But I don't think restricting the choice of scripting = language to 1 helps. Especially if that 1 is not one of the big = currently-popular ones. The existing foundation for geda-gaf is based on Scheme. That=92s an old = decision that I had nothing to do with. I agree it was perhaps not the = best decision. But I=92m perfectly happy to exploit it, as others have = been through the history of the project. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_39119D37-1B2B-4A81-8A47-A90862A8BB10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWg4SHAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRJ4MP/jiPgrBG4mZ5C9P7o2L8JK3S ydvj7DSTvtMaCApo+BTt/GIroDmK6N9kXBDxipy6iXi0KgHcmFQExTbg8kOSr9su LdnEIasfxzBmCjqL2Ia7uBkFRyi0MnaR5n25HqXTkcYDUCT7gcwURCzE+H4uH42d HntpXs+JUtDLsLy2eERryQSKlJnFtnFPfc7zBz9v3PRTavYsCzLoNl/wj+yoami3 +ah9DJN8GVFZE4rYXrEaGrlFTYGCuLohOaqSZKX87BCkbKJwcr2OHsM0IkZ2fngb OhaI0x1V07nFCc7Oym1VpAMl4W3Rdi50vrSAzH7B8bpsm7dXORYVzZXJYyLhfuJF BsaZH5aNbl6l54LlaiHgd0knoHTQhYpXBNlGSy4cVj7ljSCryq8u9IQ4ah37o3Gm G4QwkvDvLkHrypNDBanl9txbqyJ2VjTcSvU4aikxy+vTNt8UmQctIYHXgMnfMttx UpgCL2Cycz6y7Welg/hTbLEpu7Fcmo/saKDtSAILYQXlNYvtwGFGP0blsLOUBy+W yYHdcszI3nkNtsY+YvItXyd8Qlp34x8oJcIPza4lXVvn/WPcKZezHLRcBqS3RrOz CCpWu0PG2diZF7WSk1yFwRMt2GWiYQVNSyhCwVHIR/lomt8mBNh6YWclU+IeJl6J 2s66NIeSYFjekjTHuD57 =Ok85 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_39119D37-1B2B-4A81-8A47-A90862A8BB10--