X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PerprpC+RSD7LitOgsgnKr8W6ib3256t5I70UjzygOQ=; b=XVuztam8LaggGHCUCgR9CPqaApkL5lH3c3Am3id4fwv/hW0dzR2p8SffA5kJyBzI7o kzYEUAS0pWgW45HhFlJ9UdOaW9pJUvyWtCI3ffA69DBBObTAKVcE0BXzu/gHB0o408MI CEdB4a1bWXq85MrZlGUh3am83Y21EtVeKb0cjaqIAPn/X3miVWqYJjk1kJzAkVHojBw4 bs6xm8U199qUKKv8ZcP86dY/TJ1rCGosoDumutSUaxlxsvfI8z70i62GDkjXgs4+2+Vc HYBYP15nClj2wiJi9JqBeYjjbayviIAGVsqlSDcOpMixXqVzAYme/vp+C6R5i0IFxJ/F I+5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.157.133 with SMTP id wm5mr10992755lbb.7.1451453080169; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:24:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20151229212943 DOT 2d486c8c AT wind DOT levalinux DOT org> <322D36D8-DAB6-4117-B22B-8FF515B00D2B AT noqsi DOT com> <538AF43A-E94A-433B-B050-AD5C4D48EC4F AT noqsi DOT com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 05:24:40 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gEDA and it's future with Scheme & Guile was Re: [geda-user] Project leadership From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id tBU5OhqB026753 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 5:16 AM, John Doty wrote: > > On Dec 29, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >>> >>> I assume that they have the best of intentions. I am concerned that many who want change seem to have a poor understanding of what already exists. Certainly if you haven’t mastered Scheme, you have no business changing the existing geda-gaf core. But new tools are welcome. >> >> That is a nice arbitrary road block you are throwing up there. I don't >> know we have more than 3 people right now who could be said to be >> truly proficient in scheme. Given how endangered Scheme programmers >> are in the wild I think you are dooming the code to bitrot. > > Perhaps in the long run I am, but Vladimir seems quite proficient and eager, so I’m not worried for the present (and I can muddle my way through, too). For the future, we have other possibilities like Xorn. Using Xorn as you describe really would mean dynamiting the foundation. Why can't you see something other than black and white here? It is not like geda was built in one day, in a perfect immaculate conception. It evolved and you can see that in the code. How can you possibly be so sure that it can't evolve positively in the future via added functionality? > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. > http://www.noqsi.com/ > jpd AT noqsi DOT com > > -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFYy4RYBCAC183JomLtbdAlcKiaPDoVHq52LDmVmH75aiEc69m7YxDt54/ai VtYCAobbGVIyn3Hlz3uhF6LnPl/6Lm1VdnCfpwu3KQhCO6ds10ow2C30X4ohCqOd hCVg5C+ILmQkEffFrFODy3ji+PYTF4pADvHCWsTMv0hf0llwFOJsBCK6cl02IffE JPqy4PjM1nZ9HpzT84JBaG/4OGvTZ8SQ2yFUl265jagvygPTf88H1xpZHH1r8dB1 stjUHLmPH8AOyDgKxFchgGeDc3p/vJtgDDIXAFfDXG0NSRovLmtaQdGxe47Zf/go bXiEM7YL2WqQe5zfEA919JxkEwlDKYniOSVzABEBAAG0N0V2YW4gRm9zcyAoVGhp cyBpcyBteSBwdWJsaWMga2V5LikgPGV2YW5mb3NzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JATkEEwEC ACMFAlYy4RYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRCIpQTcE8nN bbBaCACAm8pU5lG1ev2Fsw68Axtcl57SJrYieqX96c3YuYH9JpqMqJRnd9nDKw9X tQuvuH7tUk0VbOaDqReOYJVI/4c5wb9AaOFp6K2DUcupq6XhgXpvz3HzoPwjAdIj XuQzdRUx5+innTJrSkGuBYW/CZ2zqEx4xfLlq4rO0hoTUMR8QVp2cCrkw6BT0m86 APIw/ZnjoxM8IEzr7MxfRIg3qpzrZk28rmhx+k78Jyk61UhwcCPGIm/pjUopTwYJ 3YBdRB2cYD2aN7A1JVf5cRmSQYooHBGpH0kYvomGk97PKqypVuJ7OpG9xM58wUcC qUVt9hKlePLzP8csYjt8onqI7qIIuQENBFYy4RYBCADlH8spG3WkCx62vB5mr5Z0 SCDd/RcyA4A5y5EOj5KurQkrSWpgi9Ho1yKruMJ6blQR2qkc66KqH9pnXDm/ZI1M K/wdW3ngETxBmXoozzFMT89aEWIVR5/PFodWK1elekE9iJxACuR98Zg2QttTD3x8 A9w8VEyMLOXcDTrPFpHegMKswFBg5iuMulAdXAoGejWTI3n+qKFpabHm2Lfs6wjk 5rjucpTdeFK6UeWF1xAvNxXibuu5BlGwv53930qIXRwO/Gn2Rh5DXWxKU2fEIme/ xgQQmIsDeUoWbfybdjw/x7Q0LW4mINiLDQcGHHRQKFIxbAJCT3USPLGh5xwE9/Er ABEBAAGJAR8EGAECAAkFAlYy4RYCGwwACgkQiKUE3BPJzW0uYAf9Hf30n8tM3mR2 Zo6ESE0ivgdgjaJtAWrBUx7JzAzPjBnBOlNnu5Y9lVEqetvUPH6e3PvaHYUuaUU8 0HwxuKBW9nUprgV6uIu1DZmlcp+SxpbuCy7RDpNocRLNWWFMaYYzznmTgfnTgD4D gCq8Mf1mcfrluTkOAo+QNqbMfl1GISClopRqxVuAo59ewgMnFujwgd8w12BwWl24 CzqOs5HqcUslePj+LzcjSNgVCklYwKl+0dsb/fctMOCtHodwqm2CBJ+zydvNmYkD fxda/J91Z1xrah5ec++FL0L4vs+jCiIWJeupJFKlr1hCMZiiGH7W554loK5l4jv3 EY347EidAw== =Ta4p -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----