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On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote:

>
>On Dec 29, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via
>geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>
>      Pcb is fine.=C2=A0
>
>
>Baloney. For example, for years I?ve been hearing that users want buried v=
ias.
>A sanely designed tool wouldn?t prevent a user from simply drawing a burie=
d
>via, even if it didn?t have such a concept built in. Pcb doesn?t properly =
model
>the job it?s supposed to do.

Now you will be hearing, for years, that I want gschem to find all=20
occurances of a net, by name, independent of how exactly it became a net.=
=20
I know you don't, but for one, I do find it an error in the design, in the=
=20
way gschem models the world.

<snip>
>That makes no sense. Pcb is dependent on geda-gaf to be useful. Geda-gaf i=
s
>useful without pcb.

Except it is not. Not any more than geda-gaf depends on pcb to desing a=20
board.

I designed my first few boards without schematics, using only PCB. I still=
=20
design very simple/trivial boards that way (little DIP-so converters and=20
things like that).

You are talking nonsense about a tool you don't even know.

>
>There?s nothing to keep my collaborators and layout contractors from using
>pcb. They know of it but it doesn?t look useful to them. I?ve exported gsc=
hem
>designs to a variety of PCB layout programs. The best one in terms of
>results has been Osmond PCB.

I know people who use $$$ proprietary eda tool. I know others who use=20
kicad. Nothing keep them from using geda, except geda doesn't look useful=
=20
to them.

If I ahd to work with someone using kicad for schematics and I wanted to=20
use PCB for layout, I am 100% sure that I could write the necessary=20
kicad2pcb tool in short time. PCB is not any worse than geda on this.=20
Although you are loud while bashing PCB, you are again proving that
you have no idea, but only prejudicates about PCB.

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