X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7C172F8E-1D1A-47CE-BBAC-563E08684377"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: gEDA and it's future with Scheme & Guile was Re: [geda-user] Project leadership X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:14:53 -0700 Message-Id: References: <20151229212943 DOT 2d486c8c AT wind DOT levalinux DOT org> <322D36D8-DAB6-4117-B22B-8FF515B00D2B AT noqsi DOT com> <538AF43A-E94A-433B-B050-AD5C4D48EC4F AT noqsi DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_7C172F8E-1D1A-47CE-BBAC-563E08684377 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Dec 29, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 10:20 PM, John Doty wrote: >>=20 >> On Dec 29, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> You don=92t have to make unwelcome changes to extend the toolkit. = That=92s an advantage of a toolkit. Use it. >>>=20 >>> Unwelcome wagon? >>=20 >> New construction is welcome. Dynamiting a foundation to make an = opening because you don=92t want to use the door is not. >=20 > Why do you always assume anyone else's additions are going to be the > equivalent to destroying everything that already exists? Because I=92ve been burned. > Why do you > assume that if they are so disastrous no one will simply yank them > from the repo? Because problems have made it to release and corrupted schematics or = netlists before anybody noticed. Yanking things from the repo does not = recall them from the field. > Why do you assume people will just push code that > breaks stuff? I assume that they have the best of intentions. I am concerned that many = who want change seem to have a poor understanding of what already = exists. Certainly if you haven=92t mastered Scheme, you have no business = changing the existing geda-gaf core. But new tools are welcome. >=20 > I respect your opinions on the architecture of geda but we both see > drawbacks to it as it is now. You said yourself there are things that > are clunky. Why do you assume those things will not be fixed? I hope they=92ll be fixed by the next generation of tools, not by doing = drastic things to the working tools we have now. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_7C172F8E-1D1A-47CE-BBAC-563E08684377 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWg1o9AAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRmEkP/2W8DN7PuGB6I/lAsjCSnTfu ra+vi/yNqnN4l0RQKIiQFfaRvxKNNmP5zlx6HllzwW2HoPtdYZviDPIeRM48M2q5 RxwJmX0MzvSo2IkndZQF3mGQJdK3vpIUCoh7MZl8skhEQfkebh3IolNSNU4Ejc+Q +pROPdsNuf2TKc4hCPUDkzx6oguqJ8S8XCtxa0Tr7k+Ge/uXZxGTDd9kszCTX3s2 UpcuIcJUjGZWGg+f9m9rjNU78ytwP6/C82xiZxq1HEURel6fo2UNLiOaEZIYtIab za1NAWvf2Jzz8L3wZh2JQuopGRsxxiWvKV/kpOEXloBjU1PovzMpxYloHDfB7XOg UOXoCZgnf/c5Ur1TKQ/AsgQOp7+gC0A32+bTrHHdswNGoknqqojpZAlb0VoNrJBL PVYS0H5NMDZvFYRWmWs/g7rdn9xSeV3Lrh7DoCRs1AU0x5ErFfeoQb0MufE3E6Qz Am4QwjegFOQy9T6HiWgo+FrqoyIeliCf5n+LwkEg23ubGRrByQF2h8MNJeS7iQ32 fkkw7orLO+8AK4RDNqfR37cDLBuc60KEVLG0Z0hqTCc8rWwrRLP5DgXbfVX1YPeP bBjXih2hYSAiOSmy2dAgVyTomlYnetFX6bTYxH2oxgisPKBwZTLauiCsQZctgLdB hfmxWtBWYTHqVMpgGpa0 =cZTW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_7C172F8E-1D1A-47CE-BBAC-563E08684377--