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	John Doty on Tue, 29 Dec 2015 19:32:50 -0700)
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> Baloney. For example, for years I've been hearing that users want
> buried vias.

And we've been hearing that users want a way to manage components, a
better scripting language than guile, and a better way to handle
busses.  A tool can be "fine" without supporting every feature under
the sun.

> Almost all of them do their drawing with gschem, but if you read
> this list, almost all of the trouble they have is with pcb.

Because drawing schematics is a simple process, whereas laying out a
circuit board is complex.  And most of the trouble is in the
"betweens" - the transistor problem, back/forward annotation,
component databases, busses.  Gschem is a tiny part of a large
toolkit, don't assume that because gschem "works" means that the rest
of the toolkit is problem-free.

> That makes no sense. Pcb is dependent on geda-gaf to be
> useful.

That makes no sense.  PCB is older than gschem, it was useful before
geda even existed.