X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3A205BBD-B01D-47E6-9546-14B1FB5DF70E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: gEDA and it's future with Scheme & Guile was Re: [geda-user] Project leadership X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 13:45:55 -0700 Message-Id: <8444F816-17CE-4A56-A982-4A60DEDA72B8@noqsi.com> References: To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_3A205BBD-B01D-47E6-9546-14B1FB5DF70E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) > [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 01:23:37PM -0500, Evan Foss = (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> ... >>>> appreciate Edward's work though I feel we see geda-gaf future >>>> differently. I, for one, wish to unify geda core functions and >>>> rewrite them in Scheme in order to get rid of our C-Scheme-C >>>> structure, throw out duplicated functionality, simplify internal >>>> structure, and make functions less opaque for both C and Scheme >>>> levels. (BTW, gschem has REPL now, are you aware of it? ;)) >>>=20 >>> A while back we debated this. I though we agreed on de-emphasising >>> scheme's use? (You and peter b were the only too proponents for it) = I >>=20 >> Who? You and Kai-Martin ;) ? >=20 > There were a lot of other people who felt that scheme was something we > need to de-emphasis in use. The single largest group of scheme > developers I know of was MIT students and they don't teach it any > more. >=20 > gEDA is struggling for a lack of development Pcb is struggling from the lack of a foundation. I think geda-gaf would = be much more popular if there was a good free/open layout program to = export to. If KiCAD ever documents their netlist format=85 > and scheme turns off a > lot of wood be contributors. We need people who.... > 1. Don't fight so much. > 2. Know about EDA software. > 3. Have time to work on the project. > 4. Know all the languages involved in the project. >=20 > That is a lot to ask. >=20 > Kai-Martin and I were not the only two. >=20 >> I never said scheme is over-emphasised in geda-gaf. AFAIR, I always >> stated the opposite: Scheme is 'under-emphasized' as a scripting >> language in geda. >=20 > I think something got missed in translation. I was saying you and > peter were the only two who wanted to keep advancing scheme's use in > geda. >=20 >>> could be miss interpreting your plan here but it sounds like you are >>> going to replace more of the C with Scheme. >>=20 >> Yeah, that's my plan :) Good plan. >=20 > Sorry but I oppose this plan and I think I can gather a lot of = support. Go over to the Xorn camp, then. That=92s where the non-Scheme action is. = It might very well be the future. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_3A205BBD-B01D-47E6-9546-14B1FB5DF70E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWgvEDAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRnqcP/0yGrVf+nih6RpRbIn+u6A3f DJU7jbZBFZ+Cw3xWMzUtfGIhIxBqjMsManaJ06iNrfEfvY7Bo21uYgebO9joMnH5 mDEkEzxI+tdymWhFzh+2GiCvK/f/Y3Iey2sddEI9n/3IilDC0pJ0CsOWISgSJ1Gn aMtjHSmtRcfLG0NXY7BLccIJ4Fgg+Zb84PgUxD7Uzm4BsWy1ZrGw9WJ+3khP1eK1 8CUh3xDzKaRyppRFbkcjPnNh2a+ogQkDDF4F9KzTWyqiWqMZ/KJgZKM04VG7jkO0 VS+1tGoLjH2WNb5UgOWgoI3tq6XcqsNJy+RJu0ly2/P/tMDjvC3FNQ1qnssZKROE Q9Jtdk2wQS0uHFWK+vvtGR17bN2JS1gQQdG65DYp0RpClamRze78c8BDZy5hGema Qm/i0Qv4EAgdXixxZG3Tck/Ygl/HRSNhCrRw5nbngv2sZL36PEdh6DKAk2+p/HpA nGcsCuw9wT+4qIibUAW6WoDM/+8WF3Q7Xgp36QyDZF1fUzwuDUBh129PnKSUFf7Q lxqF56ZO5OSQ5UqVB+N1oDiUryJwGxk0fBEkRQZ7UJc5mjN3Jrgj07KLOhD6hw1U ZizW4xXjjLHiC2jN+q4TkjTA1b+dIi5qTX2zR22EgN92tHysoipGoqnIoH0EVQwS uFl04GiVea2iMARu4bid =oi5r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_3A205BBD-B01D-47E6-9546-14B1FB5DF70E--