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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Project leadership (design error in the core of gschem)
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 1:55 PM, John Griessen <john AT ecosensory DOT com> wrote:
> On 12/29/2015 11:29 AM, Ozzy Lash (ozzy DOT lash AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>
>> In places were slotting could be cool we don't use it right in the
>> standard symbol library. Take the symbols for the larger xilinx chips.
>
>
> Slotting is intended for chip ins and outs that cannot change, so FPGAs are
> not a good example.
> FPGAs are very regprogrammable as far as which pin/pad/ball does a
> particular internal function.
> They don't need slots -- at least not classical slots.

That is why I picked them. They fly right into the faulty architecture
of our slotting as it is now.

> What would be good for FPGAs is a quick/easy way to change pin numbers of a
> symbol,
> and simultaneously  update the netlist to match that same function without
> having to undo gschem nets
> that are already connected to that place.  (A place that just got a pin swap
> or several done on it)

There is metadata that is in the schematic which does not make it past
gnetlist and into pcb or what ever else. This is just one of the
things that gets lost in translation.

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