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On Dec 29, 2015, at 7:14 AM, John Griessen <john AT ecosensory DOT com> wrote:

> On 12/28/2015 10:59 PM, John Doty wrote:
>>  klunky UI bother me. It doesn=92t significantly get in the way.
>=20
> That klunkiness is just too lame for most interested developers.

But lameness is not a consideration. Productivity is. Capability is. =
Development for the sake of developers is one thing I do not want to =
see. I want to make circuits.

> You will probably have to just squawk.  I doubt you'll help code.

https://github.com/noqsi/gnet-spice-noqsi
http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/john_doty/

> Not if you truly believe that adding more scripts without any cleanup =
would get results.

The above *do* get results. But, I=92m not averse to helping to code in =
the core if something genuinely needs fixing. I helped with the =
get-package-attribute/get-all-package-attributes business, and also then =
made a plug in to actually fix the bug (since certain developers were =
even more concerned with backward compatibility than me).

I honor Peter Brett for all the cleanup he did. But he actually =
understood the capabilities of the toolkit. I don=92t want to see =
=93cleanup=94 that=92s actually added complexity put in because the =
author doesn=92t understand or refuses to use the core capabilities that =
are already there.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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