X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=426Q6bewUdxT/KS3I+3DPMYFsJM2S7bFGBg9abmUQh0=; b=gW2FWmXXsPpZgYq38qsqEA3E4g+FrxR2jylm3x1Jx8G4R38sZdVASxFIxardRPuTQL b3WgMyiavIkdafzHAXsG3uYNPBcwghNMCgu9AHptvduzGUe1VqjKVqa+YDpO9SkxuB66 W1mdoZDh0g2IvF+JjHtMov3sXBGOuuGaps8Qarm7PHKqOX8FI4xQi4zP0TwmJ7mDG68s sl8AgoF3PG5iIt2DgWIxIPQEdGK/OyKEAfVLe2BMYwC+fkD9ROyO69+loU3n+ryN4MiH GlSV2bVjmawGppdHkTw2+lel5WlgIuLHJ2+y0ebCk1zRINjdBx1d9/h63r3IlQLWLver 5eYQ== X-Received: by 10.194.20.35 with SMTP id k3mr29740232wje.19.1450818744952; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 13:12:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 22:12:19 +0100 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Proposing a New Hierarchical Data Structure? Message-Id: <20151222221219.52ae27e1907b93ca36ea3aa4@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20151221030451 DOT 02399163eb3e40f21c622c41 AT gmail DOT com> <20151221203331 DOT 20837 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <20151222002012 DOT a88d7fe32a9336855eccd1d0 AT gmail DOT com> <201512220412 DOT tBM4CJxb018546 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk I am pretty sure Freecad support STEP format. Then it come to solid works it is hard to deal with and I think they try to diode everyone to their format. On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:31:03 -0900 "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 7:39 PM, wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Dec 2015, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > > > >> Despite of all the huge amount of work the have invested, unless they make > >>> the work really publicly available, I'd prefer not building on it. > >>> > >> > >> I.e. you want someone to either steal the work for you, or do a great > >> deal of work on your behalf without any compensation? > >> > > > > Nope. As far as I understood, we are considering the very first step of a > > roadmap. The first step is about how to pick a file format or data > > structure. Peter proposed a specific standard and listed a lot of pros. > > > > My point is only this: not having the standard freely available is a con > > that we should not ignore. > > > Seconded. STEP its a huge pain in the behind because no free software > supports it. I had to have a copy of solid works on windows for nothing > but export to STEP, so I could have parts designed with openSCAD actually > manufactured. That was a while ago and now 3D printing has forced > manufacturers to support STL. With that happening I doubt very much that > FOSS support for STEP has improved much. In any case *something* is > definitely stopping STEP adoption in FOSS and it's a good bet its the > relative unavailability of the standard.