X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <20151222193859.26898.qmail@stuge.se> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:38:58 +0100 From: "Peter Stuge (peter AT stuge DOT se) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA User Mailing List Subject: Re: [geda-user] Project leadership Mail-Followup-To: gEDA User Mailing List References: <5AC3D5C5-144F-41AE-9562-47BC34D9047F AT noqsi DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > gEDA and PCB need leadership, direction, and it needs NOT (IMO), to be > a design by committee for each new patch or feature. The leadership > should be accepted (and / or decided) by the community, and left to > lead. I agree that this is vital for a succesful project. > someone (perhaps one or more of the currently active developers) needs > to decide they want to decide and direct the future of gEDA and PCB. > Decide this, ask the community for their backing - and if you get it - > take the lead. Come to FOSDEM, and speak on behalf of the project, > decide its future. I would cautiously nominate myself. Cautious because: https://events.ccc.de/congress/2015/Fahrplan/events/7547.html I do have a vision for open source EDA, I am very good at design across many (software) layers and constructing as well as implementing complex data models, but I am also starved for time. My first priority for a major change would be to move PCB to a generic geometry data model. > If you do want to lead - but don't get backing to do so - quit... > fork... life is short, and if you have a vision for making open-source > EDA software better, go achieve that. Indeed. The empty shell of ideas that is edacore is all that I have been able to accomplish while not dealing with gEDA politics at all. > for goodness sake, someone email me off list if I ever get to be "that" > guy you all end up groaning when I post Don't worry, you are a solid contributor. John Doty wrote: > > We all _GET_ that you don't like the KiCAD design. > > Do you _GET_ that we're (I) am not trying to force that on gEDA? > > Because I see a disconnect between that stated end and the means > advocated. Centralized leadership. An agreement on where we’re > going rather than an agreement to go everywhere that we can. What if centralized leadership agrees that we should make our tools be able to go everywhere that they can, of course within reason and also weighing in all contributions made by eagernauts? :) //Peter