X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wk/DON7NcnuLK9lMQsTAp1wfH2P7SSQ2rhGeWXnReec=; b=HwisKPJxg5VxstkWDZ6c9A/n/mXaoalAoIXA02CPNJkIcoQxcOJq2DOZjD2Ji7Gtq1 of1z7DFInrR0RHEI5lUfs2kyzo0CUa804iZZAPEFbkQkOybefrPWEZMGdWrO6a1h4P04 GLULE6a+m7xpBFy87ALtDTwkA5pOepUMUEE77eg+0vqY2bCYI2AtbOWUNi1zi3cU2Z3k NMoDBKUXh+gz76vsrytDycRhAGIkRnf683XtbCU0F3/vkiBJN4f3ZOk7m6ik4W6yvXGx C9llhL4z9mtI2Dcc5ujoK15R4opeUQfcTprcYT3C2IQb128HadDbae5JMDklPRg2YYSO hSfQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.24.9 with SMTP id q9mr11330180obf.73.1450805466771; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:31:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:31:06 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Project leadership From: "Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA User Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk No Igor, it wasn't you I was thinking of... I didn't want to call anyone out by name, but if you recall - there was an individual who forked gEDA, and ported to a text-mode schematic entry system... (no problem with that - especially given it worked for him). I can't recall whether it was genuinely a PDP-10 he was running, but I do recall being impressed by the level of retro-computing at the time. I think he called the fork uEDA? I regret not having tried it, as the concept actually had a lot of charm for certain types of circuit (ironically - probably more so with more modern designs that have more plumbing, and less analogue electronics!). I am sorry you had to fork to keep what you wanted within PCB.. (despite the OpenGL bits, it all should have kept working when configured with --disable-gl, I have tried hard to avoid forcing OpenGL onto everyone - as the driver support has only recently got to be pretty ubiquitous). We lost out on your development talent when you forked, which is a shame - since you are one of the talented ones. FWIW, My "branch" with the later OpenGl stuff, and 3D support is way more like a fork now, than I'd ever intended it to become. The intention is to merge it, but the blocking problems regarding data-structure and file-format additions have still not been resolved, and my free time has (in complete generality) been reduced a lot. Peter On 22 December 2015 at 17:15, wrote: > > > On Tue, 22 Dec 2015, Peter Clifton (petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > > >> >> We CANNOT please everyone, not the "we want 3D etc..", "new features", >> "better integration".. camp (which I'm in), and simultaneously the >> "Hmm - this gEDA stuff is nice, but you're using one of those >> new-fangled X11 GUI things - that doesn't run on my PDP-10, can you >> please port it to a VT100 terminal?" types. (We've had at least one of >> those). > > > I think the VT100 terminal reference was probably intended for me (I was the > one who didn't like opengl in PCB because it got unusably slow on all my > computers). > > I have good news: you don't need to worry about me. As you suggested later > in your mail, I did realize life was short and did fork PCB long ago. So > whoever the project leader would be, he/she wouldn't need to worry about > support for "old hardware", or sw render in PCB. > > (Btw, I fully agree that one of the things that could make the project > better would be a leader backed up by majority of the community, making > crucial decisions about directions.) >