X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_67396B5C-5007-4152-B67C-DCFA6FBF09E6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] XML file format (what could be expected) X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 18:04:04 -0700 Message-Id: <6394AEC4-8EFA-4BF4-9687-753CF9DB7EAC@noqsi.com> References: <20151220122659 DOT 378AF809D791 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <20151220120219 DOT c4644eef1a65b0eb2fb60d76 AT gmail DOT com> <20151220125839 DOT 10228 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <20151220213715 DOT 12bed4bbb43ff067008156a6 AT gmail DOT com> <5677251C DOT 3050009 AT prochac DOT sk> <20151220232415 DOT 28b2dd1e2e1f2d927943b7ff AT gmail DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_67396B5C-5007-4152-B67C-DCFA6FBF09E6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CE6D324B-53C1-43DB-9882-230A898B9FCD" --Apple-Mail=_CE6D324B-53C1-43DB-9882-230A898B9FCD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Dec 20, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) = [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > That said if there was an existing successful part standard that used = XML that would be reason enough to use it. But I think I've heard J = Doty say in the past that that standard (which I think was being = discussed earlier in this thread) was effectively dead=85 I don=92t like XML much, but it=92s hardly dead. I believe you=92re = thinking of EDIF. It=92s LISP S-expressions, kind of XML-like. Not = terribly convenient to read outside of LISP, but its real problem has = always been that it simply encapsulates data whose semantics represent = those of the proprietary package writing it. So, it never achieved its = goal of interoperability between packages. The great thing about the geda-gaf format is that it=92s both flexible = and trivial to read in almost any programming language. It does not = require any sort of specialized library. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_CE6D324B-53C1-43DB-9882-230A898B9FCD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

On Dec 20, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Britton = Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) = [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] = <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>= wrote:

That = said if there was an existing successful part standard that used XML = that would be reason enough to use it. But I think I've heard J = Doty say in the past that that standard (which I think was being = discussed earlier in this thread) was effectively = dead=85

I don=92t like XML much, but = it=92s hardly dead. I believe you=92re thinking of EDIF. It=92s LISP = S-expressions, kind of XML-like. Not terribly convenient to read outside = of LISP, but its real problem has always been that it simply = encapsulates data whose semantics represent those of the proprietary = package writing it. So, it never achieved its goal of interoperability = between packages.

The great thing about the = geda-gaf format is that it=92s both flexible and trivial to read in = almost any programming language. It does not require any sort of = specialized library.

John Doty Noqsi = Aerospace, Ltd.

http://www.noqsi.com/

jpd AT noqsi DOT com

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