X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at neurotica.com X-NSA-prism-xkeyscore: I do not consent to surveillance, prick X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=neurotica.com; s=default; t=1436818224; bh=+ykp/HZ0EhpZMDSaCPAyTibjYcDvT0kFIW/Pz9pQcv4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=Qoo+VZXmwY+9JgZr5QMVr3qacQLVY0hlOFJO+DaGrDUTOE53Zga9h2Fw+cmoHnodT I4+3VJ9D+cmowLI+n7Ev7Mt1ekGk+gT5/wIFOHKyvtqJN9yVjyz52rZ9SAnO63jDco BFWROLwXVWAKhKr924knnvozCPlsGElHIJhFcims= Message-ID: <55A41B30.50602@neurotica.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:10:24 -0400 From: "Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] The new to do References: <55A2A0A2 DOT 4080403 AT ecosensory DOT com> <7AE39440-DA68-4491-A965-C1B97D1D86C1 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20150712213152 DOT 7968b74c AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <304D9D86-3CF6-4D61-A5CA-6CE414EA0661 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20150712224637 DOT 2d4cc2de AT wind DOT levalinux DOT org> <55A2E9B7 DOT 9040502 AT neurotica DOT com> <20150713131707 DOT GA782 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> <55A4042E DOT 5060402 AT neurotica DOT com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 07/13/2015 03:41 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> Then the next hard part is people finding time to do the actual work. >> Every time all of us have a big conversation about the next big step >> for gschem or PCB, it ends with nothing (or nearly nothing) actually >> getting done. It happens every couple of years. > > Yes well. I have a good feeling about this time. Although that might > be a side effect of my own intentions. I have a good feeling about it too, honestly, because there's a lot more actual progressive conversation happening this time. >> I think what we need to motivate actual development, rather than >> conversation, is cold hard CASH. I'll kick in a few bucks for the next >> round of development, whatever it may be, for gschem and PCB. > > It got a long way with out paid developers. I think kicad got > basically just as far before CERN got involved and it remains to be > scene how much farther it will go. At the start CERN just wanted an > open source project equivalent to Eagle, after they get that who knows > if they will continue. There are underlying issues remaining with > kicad's code. eeschema as I understand it suffers the same fundamental > issues as our PCB. Yes it has come a long way, which is great, but I think a bounty for certain bugs or certain features might still be a good idea. I myself know I'd toss a few bucks in someone's direction for the implementation of some stuff useful in the microwave world, like design aids for controlled-impedance traces. Another very useful thing I'd pay for would be the inclusion of an attribute in gschem which tells PCB "this net needs to be 20mils" and have PCB automatically handle that. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA