X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 72.130.189.202 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] on the choice of languages From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <201502141928.t1EJSWoi022831@envy.delorie.com> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 10:02:36 -1000 Message-Id: <2C0E4141-5E16-4129-8370-35215BB48153@noqsi.com> References: <1423934635 DOT 760 DOT 7 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <749069FC-424B-4516-A37A-735CF9052EB9 AT noqsi DOT com> <201502141928 DOT t1EJSWoi022831 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t1EK2ko3009214 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Feb 14, 2015, at 9:28 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> Yes, but to contribute to that, you really need to be part of the >> inner circle . . . The strange tribal sensitivities of the inner >> circle don't affect you. > > Please stop spreading this nonsense. I've been giving out git access > to anyone who shows a bit of promise, and we've got a big "inner > circle" that's too afraid to do anything because people like you > critisize their every move. Then why is the attribute censorship bug not fixed in any distro? Bas and I contributed a fix *four years* ago. I won’t go into the opposition we faced even to get the hooks in place to fix it with an add-on. There are more messages in that email thread than there are lines of code in the fix. > > Personally, I think our community sucks. Example: > >> I would dispute that they are *all* badly written. > > Who would want to contribute, knowing that this is the type of > comments they're likely to get? Huh? It was *Peter* who was criticizing the Scheme back ends. My comment was a little bit of a joke, since I wrote some of them. My earliest contributions *are* badly written, “cargo culted” from bad examples. But I generally approve of the back ends, as the whole paragraph that sentence came from showed. I *encourage* contributions of back ends, and I don’t mind that the code isn’t wonderful. It doesn’t need to be: it just has to get the work done. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com