X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:13:39 +0100 From: Richard Bown To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] printed meter shunts Message-ID: <20140415211339.6003d054@richard-laptop> In-Reply-To: References: <20140415195425 DOT 37808583 AT richard-laptop> Organization: Ham radio X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.20; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:rhhfQ+YFnmHdTl9G/1/nPYRhS9X3dojMocUzvjpUEi7 rNFdfihKGOGBqGFt2Fr+1dfBJWaNVKU1wOEOqaWKUr2nfsVuk1 ZFknC6iFseAXdDoYx4LyZR9MReaoogSQuQNDajclQXkG+nrBzy 4zxLFCHF4Ygfv3AbvasAYC4WqJonnkQ2YrT6dPnL9CeQvq5Yil G0RmMIhJQDOg9EZkw2dSqXymIAwM4ou4U4var+DsZPHazCvji1 5UNvttCt+mhA2i+dH0ow4Y5Lmbh8S+RqZDdQQvn4k7oA/Xd1nh Ijol+Kxc1ja66d1XvmzKZtECs3ATdhQDzoxz5TkqEl/SqX92H8 +1fcUyek8pxwBnAJwnr62D8xWBWuuWcmpgbiGw5Sj Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:25:55 -0400 Jason White wrote: > A quick Google for "PCB trace resistance calculator" shows many nifty > calculators like > > http://circuitcalculator.com/wordpress/2006/01/24/trace-resistance-calculator. > > But that does not take into account temperature rise form the high > currents, so a better calculator exists in this case the author called > it a "PCB Trace Width Calculator." It follows the IPC-2221 technical > standard for calculating current capacities of PCB traces. For your > task this will should be sufficent as it gives both the required trace > width and trace resistance for a specific current. If it is not > accurate enough I would recommend taking the data directly IPC-2221 to > figure it out mathematically. > > Make sure to leave room for a >10% manufacturing tolerance in copper > thickness (and thus resistance). I have a feeling that a *lot* of > trimming will be required. Make sure the trace is wide enough so that > is doesn't heat up significantly as resistance changes with > temperature > > http://circuitcalculator.com/wordpress/2006/01/31/pcb-trace-width-calculator/ > > Good Luck! > Jason White Thanks Jason Luckily as long as I can get 50mV drop across it with 10A flowing , I can use a potential divider , ( two resistors ) to get the right results.. > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Richard Bown > wrote: > > Hi, > > I thinking of playing with the LTC1645 using its for over current > > shut down, > > it requires only 50mV across a shunt resistor to trip, at 10A thats > > 5milli ohm. > > And those resistors in TO-220 packages are expensive, so I was > > thinking why use a length of wide track, needs to wide as handling > > up to 10A . Are there any tables to give track resistance if the > > thickness , width and length are known. > > In practice its better to go for a lossier track and tap the voltage > > across it with a potential divider, so target around 10 - 20 milli > > ohms, cant use anything bigger as the board will get hot, 10A > > through 0.02 R is 2 W, so better around 0.01 R > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > -- > > Best wishes /73 > > Richard Bown > > Email : richard AT g8jvm DOT com > > HTTP : http://www.g8jvm.com > > nil carborundum a illegitemis > > ################################################################################## > > Ham Call G8JVM . OS Linux Mint 16 x86_64 on a Dell Inspiron N5030 > > laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W > > QRV VHF 6mtrs 200W, 4 mtrs 150W, 2mtrs 400W, 70cms 200W > > Microwave 23 cms 140W, 13 cms 100W, 6 cms 0W & 3cms 5W > > ################################################################################## > > > > > -- -- Best wishes /73 Richard Bown Email : richard AT g8jvm DOT com HTTP : http://www.g8jvm.com nil carborundum a illegitemis ################################################################################## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Linux Mint 16 x86_64 on a Dell Inspiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W QRV VHF 6mtrs 200W, 4 mtrs 150W, 2mtrs 400W, 70cms 200W Microwave 23 cms 140W, 13 cms 100W, 6 cms 0W & 3cms 5W ##################################################################################