X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <53461DD7.3000104@ecosensory.com> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 23:28:07 -0500 From: John Griessen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Freerouting finally free (GPL3) References: <1395878918 DOT 2126 DOT 7 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> <5340720B DOT 4060805 AT neurotica DOT com> <201404092226 DOT 44046 DOT ad252 AT freeelectron DOT net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 04/09/2014 10:07 PM, Britton Kerin wrote: >> Lots of pro PC designers can't program at all, and >> >have no idea how circuits work. > These folks aren't using gEDA anyway. But, if the free tools were as simple to use as the usual ones circuit layout folk use, we could hire them with the same tools as we use to make open hardware. That will make lots of sense as more "from scratch" machine products get crowdfunded. Hobby isn't the only use for these tools. Way back in 2004 Steve Meier started using gEDA for product development and had to give it up the same year for lack of people to hire that could use it. When they needed to "go ahead and use the local talent", that meant they had to drop gEDA tools and go with generic ones the layout folk could be productive with.