X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f
X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=1e100.net; s=20130820;
        h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date
         :message-id:subject:to:content-type;
        bh=PaA9hGkMs+JGZyAqo4yoGFbo7tMZD0E1iEAO/vq56qg=;
        b=mjuocrwdcduY84xUdG4AlYDshQCP6K/1ID3bKQmKwRzi4wFXdcKV9gkFXRlj9mqAz+
         C0F0vWt/Dw4ceS05lvhCQ7DesZCJgCW/iPRp34M7MlWd8yoTZkPVHMvLP64XJMJdwpzo
         5tWeQ6+mFBfXXh9D2VNL/HchCRu8M0Hu6Jf3lvccNbxm+Fx9l1RwsrZA29fwGrZMCyTD
         qmInqEGZeQbBwKnTIJtpHGmJP7WpYHgEE7E5znpey4xyJir5osdYJ7eWNKhwmXoZtBjr
         LKAdHrsZkXQJSGfQ1jVuCM/qAwwO3IePR9MHVD+oE3tp6no7rubFQyQtL5ksRGVsmxP/
         8yuw==
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQldDWtVTX9uxQ3nQvlLaJWZqMmmM+OpIUjzFaQMRxdTwfsdECoFS3Fgkp4stp8jmXK6ILtG
X-Received: by 10.180.205.204 with SMTP id li12mr29822474wic.34.1395844253211;
 Wed, 26 Mar 2014 07:30:53 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <lgukm7$cn5$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <201403170355 DOT s2H3tavv007601 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20140317124838 DOT GQ24726 AT shavo DOT dd-wrt>
 <1395071563 DOT 12057 DOT 6 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> <CAG4ve9JA=Gow55ZdJXeGjJqj2f04HrSpp7S2=BMT-hNeph58DA AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
 <1395791273 DOT 23271 DOT 19 DOT camel AT pcjc2lap> <lgukm7$cn5$1 AT ger DOT gmane DOT org>
From: Joshua Lansford <joshua DOT lansford AT laserlinc DOT com>
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:30:33 -0400
Message-ID: <CAGRhJMbTL4Jr_iwe_boMN=VWh-i+F_CsR-eTaF32cvtgnxg6JQ@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb-20140316 is released
To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c37beadff25204f583502f
Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com
X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com
Precedence: bulk

--001a11c37beadff25204f583502f
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Assuming
elektroniq set to bibo.iqo.uni-hannover.de
in your hosts file?
~Joshua


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak <knaak AT iqo DOT uni-hannover DOT d=
e
> wrote:

> Peter Clifton wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 20:56 +0400, =D0=90=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B5=
=D0=B9 =D0=A5=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B9 w=
rote:
> >>         Is there an option to separate layers -- I think I have seen
> >>         that in
> >>         pictures by Peter C. years ago?
> >> 3D in git a long ago.
> >>
> >>
> > The code pushed upstream doesn't have any layer separation yet. It is
> > present (hard-coded separation though), in my own repo.or.cz developmen=
t
> > repositories, along with various tricks and hacks to make the 3D
> > rendering MUCH faster than currently upstream.
>
> More speed would be awesome!
> Some of my projects would benefit from increased speed. For example my
> "stromverteiler":
>
> http://elektroniq/index.html/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=3Deigenbau:stromvert=
eiler:stromverteiler_v1.pcb
> On reasonably current hardware (pentium P5, haswell), the benchmark()
> yields about 5.5 FPS for this layout with all layers activated. Yes, this
> is the most complex design I ever did. But it is a real world project :-)
>
>
> > OTOH.. I have been reading (for fun) some VERY interesting books on 3D
> > BREP modelling recently... I am starting to become tempted once again t=
o
> > play with some of these ideas.
>
> Well, I still think import/export to freeCAD would be way more useful tha=
n
> reinventing 3D wheels inside pcb. The license issues connected to the
> opencascade lib used by freeCAD have finally been resolved. :-)
>
> BTW, the freecad website has come a long way since I last checked:
>         http://freecadweb.org/
> I hesitate to compare this to the current state of the geda-project.org
> website...
>
> ---<)kaimartin(>---
> --
> Kai-Martin Knaak                                  tel: +49-511-762-2895
> Universit=C3=A4t Hannover, Inst. f=C3=BCr Quantenoptik      fax: +49-511-=
762-2211
> Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover           http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de
> GPG key:    http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=3DKnaak+kmk&op=3Dg=
et
>
>
>
>

--001a11c37beadff25204f583502f
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr">Assuming<div style>elektroniq set to=C2=A0<a href=3D"http:=
//bibo.iqo.uni-hannover.de/">bibo.iqo.uni-hannover.de</a></div><div style>i=
n your hosts file?</div><div style>~Joshua</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kai-Martin =
Knaak <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:knaak AT iqo DOT uni-hannover DOT de" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">knaak AT iqo DOT uni-hannover DOT de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"">Peter Clifton wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 20:56 +0400, =D0=90=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=
=B5=D0=B9 =D0=A5=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=
=B9 wrote:<br>
</div><div class=3D"">&gt;&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Is there an opti=
on to separate layers -- I think I have seen<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 that in<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 pictures by Peter C. years ago?<br>
&gt;&gt; 3D in git a long ago.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; The code pushed upstream doesn&#39;t have any layer separation yet. It=
 is<br>
&gt; present (hard-coded separation though), in my own <a href=3D"http://re=
po.or.cz" target=3D"_blank">repo.or.cz</a> development<br>
&gt; repositories, along with various tricks and hacks to make the 3D<br>
&gt; rendering MUCH faster than currently upstream.<br>
<br>
</div>More speed would be awesome!<br>
Some of my projects would benefit from increased speed. For example my<br>
&quot;stromverteiler&quot;:<br>
<a href=3D"http://elektroniq/index.html/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=3Deigenbau:=
stromverteiler:stromverteiler_v1.pcb" target=3D"_blank">http://elektroniq/i=
ndex.html/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=3Deigenbau:stromverteiler:stromverteiler_=
v1.pcb</a><br>


On reasonably current hardware (pentium P5, haswell), the benchmark()<br>
yields about 5.5 FPS for this layout with all layers activated. Yes, this<b=
r>
is the most complex design I ever did. But it is a real world project :-)<b=
r>
<div class=3D""><br>
<br>
&gt; OTOH.. I have been reading (for fun) some VERY interesting books on 3D=
<br>
&gt; BREP modelling recently... I am starting to become tempted once again =
to<br>
&gt; play with some of these ideas.<br>
<br>
</div>Well, I still think import/export to freeCAD would be way more useful=
 than<br>
reinventing 3D wheels inside pcb. The license issues connected to the<br>
opencascade lib used by freeCAD have finally been resolved. :-)<br>
<br>
BTW, the freecad website has come a long way since I last checked:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://freecadweb.org/" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://freecadweb.org/</a><br>
I hesitate to compare this to the current state of the <a href=3D"http://ge=
da-project.org" target=3D"_blank">geda-project.org</a><br>
website...<br>
<br>
---&lt;)kaimartin(&gt;---<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Kai-Martin Knaak =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tel: <a href=
=3D"tel:%2B49-511-762-2895" value=3D"+495117622895">+49-511-762-2895</a><br=
>
Universit=C3=A4t Hannover, Inst. f=C3=BCr Quantenoptik =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
fax: <a href=3D"tel:%2B49-511-762-2211" value=3D"+495117622211">+49-511-762=
-2211</a><br>
Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=
=3D"http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de" target=3D"_blank">http://www.iqo.uni-ha=
nnover.de</a><br>
GPG key: =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=
=3DKnaak+kmk&amp;op=3Dget" target=3D"_blank">http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/l=
ookup?search=3DKnaak+kmk&amp;op=3Dget</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>

--001a11c37beadff25204f583502f--