X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eDeRBAcgQpwmA2/0tb5mJkMTiTEgq7Bm/IJ5Vf3mc88=; b=AIQNkjA4qRRv1vQkYTwc8Xaxn8m3COdRnTIEcSitjSpiGXu77SUTXK7xOP4TeSOWIL 0W+Y9HlDwMej4JzqrOQcI38PD620ycRm3MBmRiw1gZV8LUSM9pJapbsRM4dGQ61gerlY /oza2AQAxCZ0hxNUYQRIrYgz2JymJAZMlcraCIxIFVwRtPMN2p4yVlriivGA71OYmw0b /aFUvEf8oINBS7OmBf82lHS/Lb/kLYpbI1mKSn9hs4nmfsFzCwhJH3JXIB+pgiiKWSCQ 8f0GaLlQusR0ThVL8eWRY1SE/M1TMKqYj4TB3nzzYSBy3eIKmE/D5JBx9GhMbcKR43JF tLag== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.204.5 with SMTP id ku5mr32702183pbc.88.1381698658702; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 14:10:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <525AC3B0.5080703@penguindevelopment.org> References: <525AADB0 DOT 8030508 AT penguindevelopment DOT org> <525AB9A5 DOT 2060109 AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk> <525AC3B0 DOT 5080703 AT penguindevelopment DOT org> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 17:10:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Dealing with internal connections From: Evan Foss To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk For things like FPGA I/O lines the kind of functionality you are looking for would be very helpful. Shame it does not currently exist. I have the same situation and I use the 4 pin symbol if only because the symbol should mirror the part. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Peter wrote: > On 13/10/13 17:17, Ed Simmons wrote: >> >> On 13/10/13 15:26, Peter wrote: > > >> Perhaps you could instead use a symbol with four pins like you have >> 'drawn' above... then you could also use the footprints with pads >> numbered 1-4. You could show the connection in the symbol easily, with >> the design intent clearly set out in the schematic. >> >> When it comes to PCB, it would still complain about the pads not being >> joined, but ignoring the rats between switch pads doesn't seem too awful. >> >> When I complete a PCB layout, it's quite common for me to short ground >> planes to connector shells... these don't always have the corresponding >> pin in the schematic. Usually by the second revision of the design I've >> tidied these up and added the appropriately numbered pins to symbols to >> show these connections and prevent PCB from complaining. ;-) >> >> Hope that helps... >> >> Ed >> > Using a 4-pin symbol is what I'd like to avoid having to do, because when > routing the PCB, I'll sometimes decide it's useful, for example, to connect > only pins 1a and 2b -- but then, after some reconsideration, I'll suddenly > see a more efficient way that instead requires pins 1b and 2a to be > connected, or requires "hijacking" the internal connection between pins 1a > and 1b as a bridge across tracks routed underneath the switch. All of those > things would require changing the schematic during editing. > > Your idea of going with the "wrong" version first and cleaning it up in a > later revision does sound good, though; I could just use two > nearly-identical footprints, one with multiple identically-named pins for > development, and one with different pins for "release"; then I'd just have > to change the schematic to match the PCB once, and using "import schematics" > would hopefully magically "fix" the routing. > > Cheers. > > > Peter > -- > http://www.penguindevelopment.org/ -- Free and open source software and > hardware -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/