X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=mail.ud03.udmedia.de; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=beta; bh= SOIRbhmmYR7X/YAKajUXEikmylD9CWzRiRSr+4x2D1U=; b=v37kO7kKUfEQrQtn kCaoyWW2sqBdJx0E8gu3qdY/O0jmTgLDa0hQK5Apfh6NfYbaQUO2H1yKukxnVnqs M36NWQ/4A4EIz22sLF40/1b3lxthel5967gpFAKPDTXkkPeGJRa9pQCHQyRY3e0w 0Sz5MURyIXnrauJV9Rf6vq6HT+I= Message-ID: <51C0F527.7000201@jump-ing.de> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:02:47 +0200 From: Markus Hitter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130510 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com CC: Matt Rhys-Roberts Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb: key bindings are misinterpreted References: <51C06C7A DOT 6080802 AT envinsci DOT co DOT uk> In-Reply-To: <51C06C7A.6080802@envinsci.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Am 18.06.2013 16:19, schrieb Matt Rhys-Roberts: > Is there any way to make pcb obey the key bindings first, before the > windowing system intercepts the keystrokes? Most operating systems would consider such behaviour to be buggy. That's why they don't provide such keystrokes in the event queue. If you want such keystrokes anyways, you have to tell your OS/window manager to not use the keys for its self, e.g. turn off menu handling with the Alt key. Before you ask: I consider this to be a good thing. If every application on this planet came along with its individual idea of keyboard shortcuts, life as a desktop user would be a lot more complicated. Uselessness of many of the strokes is another matter. When finetuning a layout I usually find myself using a text editor, because there you can at least see and change the numbers. Markus -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. (FH) Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/