X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=I3CtC7Au8gxsslXLJsi3nmP1sb7PA4oKqJSFFYUIxCo=; b=fgB6KpjgTw7Ce1/nbybcxbq5nrD3kyyXEOoVcf/9F9N6QbP9PnZY2aMeczCmPZWhDT avkYC6s49GhWrV06FRaGQZuFMEP0PO5m7MRjO/L3sPMmhf/MOgZ8dnNHJNJGDdqNvcoj FwgnW8aoVxY8VxUPoD8cIoLsen6QwKrRM8XUdcfat0ai6cvxL0nJbJFj9uSlH9IzkytK MbmAOt6iymB9hVx1Z4ufmqAze/6Ry3WtaEofUR/OWxp57VVTMkVhxrk3NpYejktgfp4+ LQ8zb507LgmcVVXBRJpf+yGoYV6736o5LbNYZTTeUhLM84sX1+QV74VgrNOd9GHOW4FN Ivbw== X-Received: by 10.194.134.66 with SMTP id pi2mr6744587wjb.51.1364210719921; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 04:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5150341D.2050406@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:25:17 +0000 From: Iain Paton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: [geda-user] pcb layers & shortcuts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com I've used gschem& pcb on and off for many years, but recently my usage has spiked considerably and a couple of problems have started to become quite annoying. Google and the faq aren't helping me, First is that muscle memory has me using Alt-S to change hole sizes, but this now brings up a menu instead of changing the size. Doing what Alt-S used to do is now an akward manual excercise through a two level deep menu. Is there a better way, or a way to get the old behaviour back ? Second is that I rarely, if ever, want an 8 layer board. Editing the layers through File/Preferences is fine, but has to be done for every board. I found $HOME/.pcb/preferences which contains layer and group definitions, but if I edit these then they're ignored and over-written with the default 8 layer setup every time I restart pcb, similarly using --groups 1,c:2,s on the command line is ignored. Using the groups string in pcbrc also appears to be ignored. Somewhere in my attempts to solve this I've ended up with File/Preferences showing 8 layers, but drawing lines on a blank pcb nothing shows up at all - saving the file and opening it in an editor shows that it has a line Groups("") and I now have to manually edit the file and add the correct groups before re-opening it in pcb, trying to edit the layers in File/Preferences has no effect in the saved file. I can't be the only one who wants their own layer configuration and would like it to stick as a default. So how do I do it ? Config file I've missed, or do I just have to find the place it's defined in the source change it and recompile ?