X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=mail.ud03.udmedia.de; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=beta; bh= u6Zhe8oPq0RwlGU1CsBcIOWIxn8OGpmP88j12dLQ3qE=; b=uVAF428YgnQeAAXp NPEkmSyMZxSvSm1f10nxCfxdwQ1qGRgAT14Xj3Xbi24r9e1L8Sxd/a9jqRpqkvDX YuoXxOtvaU058hWm00sC2WmvgSHlz5qfobDbNHKjNyESPWAvz7sT7fRULfQk99W4 TMkLe0RETH9VhjCFHlgjAr0CW/Q= Message-ID: <50C6A2EA.7080309@jump-ing.de> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 04:05:14 +0100 From: Markus Hitter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Find rat lines References: <20121204183305 DOT 6b04c0dc AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <20121208112649 DOT 388a9d22 AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <1355011808 DOT 19390 DOT 8 DOT camel AT localhost> <20121209164921 DOT 5acd2412 AT akka> <35569664-3107-4F54-BD56-42EBEB7C0CD7 AT jump-ing DOT de> <20121211023509 DOT 552a4e29 AT akka> In-Reply-To: <20121211023509.552a4e29@akka> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Am 11.12.2012 02:35, schrieb Kai-Martin Knaak: > I usually set Settings->Import_New_Elements_at to "Crosshair" and click > to some free space in the Viewport. So far I wasn't aware of such a function, thanks for the hint. >> Shorts can be seen at a >> glance, they produce more text that just a "x ratlines remaining". > > The user still has to be aware of this. Probably every new user must > have taken hits by unnoticed shorts before he or she starts looking at > the log window. In line with the principle of least surprise, I'd > advocate for a more offensive warning in the form of a pop-up dialog. So far I couldn't imagine to work _without_ the log. How else would one find out wether all rats are done? Perhaps we could agree on a dialog on file save. A dialog popping up just because a track temporarily falls across the board would be nasty very quickly. > The option should be settable in preferences, too. Not so many options please. Each option causes more maintenance work for developers and diverges habits of users. For my part I like applications which give a clear path on how to do things. Why? See my first paragraph of this message. Options have to be learned and learning takes time which could be used for more productive works. Markus -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. (FH) Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/