X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=seznam.cz; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-Id:References:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UYpwOFMGyUKKtkvzviJL7W6eL1DrXTKOc5+U1KyNjFI4vthAaeNvLnH62FUFy4Psy W7cvDe0fmx8mXJUAMh3E696szrl9tQuQS5kOBgP7n8h+xxW8hXKuiJOPlpUX7eorJh0 xT1Xe3RuO2vqyxj7jjv3v1unqFtp4AWwTqszrKA= From: "Vaclav Peroutka" To: Subject: Fwd: Re: [geda-user] LiquidPCB Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:05:59 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: References: <54CAA7EE-7638-4B89-8197-111D0493F859 AT noqsi DOT com> <508CE947 DOT 4050408 AT xs4all DOT nl> <508D302D DOT 1030105 AT jump-ing DOT de> <20121028164801 DOT GA4859 AT alpha2> <5FF7010F-BB82-41F2-8EBC-608E91E045F1 AT noqsi DOT com> <20121028185659 DOT GA16006 AT alpha2> <04438B14-A0ED-4F92-A101-5824420C24C1 AT noqsi DOT com> <20121029063943 DOT GA8685 AT fly> <201210291713 DOT q9THDK2C011621 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <508ECF7A DOT 3030701 AT neurotica DOT com> <1351537698 DOT 57198 DOT YahooMailNeo AT web120703 DOT mail DOT ne1 DOT yahoo DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (szn-mime-1.0.72-5) X-Mailer: szn-ebox-4.3.71-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Hi Edward, I downloaded Windows ZIP file dated 2008_02_12, so not the last version. I played about 10 minutes and sent following list of questions/tips to liquidpcb author. The idea of not-clicking-all-the-time is really good and I like it. - recent documents are dummy, aren't they ? It would be worth at least create one simple example and put it into recent documents - document = project ? Everything is in single file ? - the PCB is always circle ? Can I define the size and shape of the board ? - How can I change top/bottom layer ? Ctrl-Z does something different - I do not see vias on the bottom side - If I put several Vias and connect them with Tracks, Tracks start to flutter and live their own life - Is there any mode to have just 45degree tracks, possibly with circular corners ? - I have some strange problem with components - DIL does not work, SOIC does but putting on the board I do not see any pads - Can Tracks be somehow optimized - make tracks shorter ? - is there UNDO ? - component library menu does nothing ? - I can not cancel "File Open" dialog - how can I set track width ? I think that idea of liquidpcb is good. But what is necessary from my point of view, at least: - import of schematic/netlist, possibly with placement recommendation and unrouted tracks - export to GERBER - libraries - they seem confusing to me Answer was that some stuff is already implemented and author will hopefully prepare more up-to-date ZIP file. If there would be people working on it, IMO liquidpcb has potential to grow to very interesting piece of PCB software. Vaclav Od: Edward Comer In reading the current topics I saw LiquidPCB (http://www.liquidpcb.org/) mentioned. I looked at their homepage and it was rather interesting. Even though the project seems to be somewhat dead with no activity in two years, it is quite compelling. I downloaded the source for LiquidPCB and its dependents and attempted to compile it. I got quite far, until some I encountered some argument errors that appear to caused by my using newer libraries than the code was written for. I gave up and deleted all of the code - BUT - wonder, has anyone successfully tested LiquidPCB and, if so, what did you think of it?