X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at neurotica.com Message-ID: <4F5E57BC.3020001@neurotica.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:08:28 -0400 From: Dave McGuire User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.27) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/3.1.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Very confused...possible PCB bug? Need help. References: <4F5DCE76 DOT 1060304 AT neurotica DOT com> <1331551986 DOT 2533 DOT 14 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> In-Reply-To: <1331551986.2533.14.camel@AMD64X2.fritz.box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 03/12/2012 07:33 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: >> When I hit "o", a via and a pin of a connector are highlighted in >> orange. > > I can remember having similar problems for a board with 1000 elements, I > have wasted more than one hour total finding the shorts. No problem for > me, but maybe a reason for first time users to stop using pcb. Yes, I had thought about that as well. Fortunately (in my experience anyway) it seems to be rare. > It was my hope that there was a smart way finding such an error > instantly. Is it not? Usually yes; they get highlighted in orange, but sometimes the orange highlighting doesn't appear in sensible places. If (as in my case) the power net is shorted to the ground net, and they're all over the board, PCB can't necessarily know where that short is, it seems. > So it is really bad that we can hide the log window missing these errors > when we do "optimize" many times. When we then discover the problem, it > is too late to really see it at once. Yes. I'll be watching that log window much more closely now. > The 'divide and conquer' method suggested by gene glick (or going back > to a saved backup) is unknown for most windows kids -- I know this when > they ask in forums about programming or other problems... The are not > able to isolate problems. I like that method, but I was trying to avoid it because this board is very nearly done and I need to get a prototype built ASAP. I was hoping for a "quick fix" suggestion, and several people have stepped up with some. (thanks!!) I'm working on it again now with rested eyes. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA