X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=oZqqnduCK1iT2vEAK76kXeCDiM6De3Fm04ZXNfTRUp0=; b=PAjB/EOjXug7BkgYXY/q7Lth07su09zfxn+9VfWW/dZOAuZ8e7GIoboVSJ1cf+qnWR yskDvrlrZ1N7A0Dts7dki4gOmYsHyP8f7iLrmY0g8j/3mEy+elSaOWA4/Am7ZYqPewLP Qn/RNr9Nd3NO9Rl1TpnxtyRZUjFIjFHYGxb9OWwp9jeqZUzE4xaDNzwZVanaaKFZBYB5 xQeGfnjWh56Pj1wgPQLbrK8le+SkdmIyaWVHqR9BqUdjBwypq0Mkri/2ruW+g1FWaIVT z0J7XQZSCqpHrxc/77QupVs6vGoZiaMGjERTb89Fscvh1WpLwNOVPVxgXX6sGxG/mlOk mEZw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=oZqqnduCK1iT2vEAK76kXeCDiM6De3Fm04ZXNfTRUp0=; b=FzKEq+SEigEo1yO4aVrVYXeMYzwrwq3VKRd1yzlQRg8TkFNcfIjVRHa2JCYlX+VF4n d5uige1InsqwsuYABfWnXLIe6uheddwjeBRcIK8zffz6IsNQZ5kSPBFwEUgVsZtoR12p 3QFZHY5qZmr+YuL8UMQMMuIvVyQuzllT4ek364eBI5imzM5voEgz3wVPZen35gcOANIZ OMy7Vd0GVbtp1bMKCXTG9UWelp6ZGUW6kL/0IlHj6faUGZYKxvFv8QyP5752vYKzKKL3 1pk81cMFJ82dBeeaEkAdo3N99VWbslbT/lqsbfmQIM/F80mXcXJ57Ak7NFzv0r2tsPEI 0nUw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUdMGqJ60Ax3LmIG99k6RjwZm+YGzNi5BwesA+ZJxVxtUXo6zeT qwCDwENXgf++xrRqqPppmhX539DRjuoFsMY86A7IkBQv X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyFHKA75TuLg8yL+U5i1yrKUke40Df/zrLUCkl7wJ0k0O/9KH6iU8D0UGZIP5DjRkeoKysoG6PC31SmEhb1Gh8= X-Received: by 2002:a81:2083:: with SMTP id g125mr6086673ywg.466.1551485969189; Fri, 01 Mar 2019 16:19:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2019 10:49:14 +1030 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-help] Picaxe 14M2 To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001150e20583117a52" Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com --0000000000001150e20583117a52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp Is an example of a 14 pin DIP footprint suitable for a through hole 14M picaxe. Some eda tools like Eagle bundle the symbols and associated footprints in libraries - so called heavy symbols - but gschem allows any suitable footprint to be set as the desired physical pinout for a symbol in gschem. The history of "M4" and "newlib" collections of footprints is well described at http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:pcb_footprints tl;dr version: You need a DIP14.fp footprint file available for laying out your schematic in PCB, and probably have one already in your default installed libraries. As far as the HC-12 footprint goes, I googled HC-12 footprint, and came across a github repository with an eagle library for it at https://github.com/meendiz/hc-12_si4463 from which the raw XML library can be downloaded at: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/meendiz/hc-12_si4463/master/hc12_433mhz.lbr which I then used with https://github.com/erichVK5/translate2geda to convert the eagle library into a gEDA PCB and gschem footprint and symbol, respectively which I have put on http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/HC-12_FOOTPRINT_HC-12_FOOTPRINT.sym http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/footprints/HC-12_FOOTPRINT.fp In general, a google search for a footprint or symbol for a particular device should yield either a gschem/PCB file, or one that can be converted easily. Regards, Erich. On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 03:24 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com], wrote: > Hi Erich Heinzie > I have found 3 files with records that end on .fp: > > /home/torben/www/user/ > /home/geda/www/user > /home/geda/www/footprints/newlib > > I have now integrated PICAXE-14.sym in the standard library that > automatically comes up. > The 3 files are a bit confusing. First they dont appear to be sorted all > the way through? Next, can you tell me which of them is associated with the > standard library? > I am sorry I am a bit confused. > torben > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM Torben Friis wrote: > >> Hi Erich Heinzie, >> Do I need a footprint file also for the Picaxe-14? >> I have been looking for sym-files (and fp-files?) for: >> - a 3-legged step-up power converter (from Canton-Power) >> - a hc-12 transceiver (5 legs) >> - SW-420 vibration tester (3 legs) >> without finding it. Maybe I can use something else with the right number >> of legs. >> Does anybody have it? >> torben >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:26 PM Torben Friis wrote: >> >>> Hi Erich Heinzie, >>> It worked. >>> Thank you. >>> torben >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 1:31 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via >>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>> >>>> you do not appear to have placed a symbol (.sym) file for the picaxe >>>> in your picaxe directory, but you have some footprints (.fp) in there. >>>> >>>> gschem does not do anything or know what to do with the footprints. >>>> >>>> the following link should provide you with a picaxe 14M symbol >>>> "PICAXE-14M.sym" that you can put in the picaxe directory gschem looks >>>> in >>>> >>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl >>>> . >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:45 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via >>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Erich Heinzie, >>>> > Sorry it took me a long time to answer - problems with a GSM module. >>>> > >>>> > I have found a file: >>>> > >>>> > /usr/share/gEDA/gafrc.d/geda-clib.scm >>>> > >>>> > with the content (the next to last line is added by me): >>>> > >>>> > ("minicircuits" "Mini-Circuits") >>>> > ("national" "National Semiconductor") >>>> > ("philips" "Philips Electronics") >>>> > ("picaxe" "Picaxe chips") >>>> > ("st" "ST Microelectronics") >>>> > >>>> > and a file: >>>> > >>>> > torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ ls /usr/share/gEDA/sym/philips >>>> > PCA82C250-1.sym PCF8563-1.sym >>>> > torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ ls /usr/share/gEDA/sym/picaxe >>>> > SIP3.fp SIP4.fp SO8W.fp >>>> > >>>> > which is reflected in the Gschem selection of component: >>>> > >>>> > > Philips electronics >>>> > PCA82C250-1.sym >>>> > PCF8563-1.sym >>>> > Picaxe Chips >>>> > >>>> > However, the "Picaxe chips" does not appear in the same way as "> >>>> Philips electronics" with the subordinate points "SIP3.fp SIP4.fp >>>> SO8W.fp". If I click "Picaxe chips" I close the screen. Obviously it does >>>> not make contact with /usr/share/gEDA/sym/picaxe, SIP3.fp SIP4.fp SO8W.fp >>>> > Can you explain the difference between philips and picaxe? >>>> > torben >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:19 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) >>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl >>>> >> >>>> >> The above link will download the raw symbol file as a .sym for use >>>> in the gschem schematic editor >>>> >> >>>> >> The DIP14 footprint required in the pcb layout editor will be a .fp >>>> file and the raw file can be downloaded from >>>> >> >>>> >> http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl >>>> >> >>>> >> You can place the respective files in the same directory as your >>>> schematic and pcb layout, but most people will use dedicated directories in >>>> their project directory for symbols and for footprints. >>>> >> >>>> >> Regards, >>>> >> >>>> >> Erich >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 02:34 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via >>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] >>> >>> >>>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>> I found DIP14: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ cat /home/torben/gEDAsym >>>> >>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html >>>> >>> >>>> >>> It looks different from your file if I view it.. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Where should I store the file you sent (if it is the file I should >>>> store)? >>>> >>> torben >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker ( >>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] < >>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It looks like the package is a 14-pin DIP, so "DIP14" should work >>>> as the footprint. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> --Chad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:11 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) >>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi , >>>> >>>>> I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot find it. I >>>> have been looking for .../newlib and found it in two places, but neither >>>> one appeared to provide it. >>>> >>>>> Is there anywhere else I can look for it? >>>> >>>>> torben >>>> >>>> --0000000000001150e20583117a52 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp

Is an example of a 14 pin DIP footprint suitab= le for a through hole 14M picaxe.

Some eda tools like Eagle bundle the symbols and associated footp= rints in libraries - so called heavy symbols - but gschem allows any suitab= le footprint to be set as the desired physical pinout for a symbol in gsche= m.

The history of "= M4" and "newlib" collections of footprints is well described= at


<= div dir=3D"auto">tl;dr version:
You need a DIP14.fp footprint file ava= ilable for laying out your schematic in PCB, and probably have one already = in your default installed libraries.

As far as the HC-12 footprint g= oes, I googled HC-12 footprint, and came across a github repository with an= eagle library for it at

https://github.com/meendiz/hc-12_si4463
<= /div>

from which the raw XML library can be downloaded a= t:



to convert the eagle library into a gEDA PCB and gschem footprint an= d symbol, respectively

which I have put on

<= br>

In general, a goog= le search for a footprint or symbol for a particular device should yield ei= ther a gschem/PCB file, or one that can be converted easily.

=
Regards,

Erich.=C2=A0=C2=A0


=
On Sat= , 2 Mar 2019 03:24 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help@= delorie.com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi Erich Heinzie
I have fou= nd 3 files with records that end on .fp:

=
/home/torben/www/user/
/home/geda/www/user
/home/g= eda/www/footprints/newlib

I have now integrated PICAXE-14.sym in the standard library that automa= tically comes up.
The 3 files are a bit confus= ing. First they dont appear to be sorted all the way through? Next, can you= tell me which of them is associated with the standard library?
I am sorry I am a bit confused.
torben=

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM Torben Friis <= friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
Hi Erich Heinzie,
Do I need a footprint file also for the Picaxe-14?
I have been looking for sym-files (and fp-files?) for:<= /div>
- a 3-legged step-up power converter (from Canton-P= ower)
- a hc-12 transceiver (5 legs)
- SW-420 vibration tester (3 legs)
wi= thout finding it. Maybe I can use something else with the right number of l= egs.
Does anybody have it?
torben


On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:= 26 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
=
Hi Erich Heinzie,
It worked.
Thank you.
torben

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Thu, Feb= 28, 2019 at 1:31 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via= geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delor= ie.com> wrote:
you do not appear to have placed a symbol (.sym) file for the picaxe<= br> in your picaxe directory, but you have some footprints (.fp) in there.

gschem does not do anything or know what to do with the footprints.

the following link should provide you with a picaxe 14M symbol
"PICAXE-14M.sym" that you can put in the picaxe directory gschem = looks
in

http://= www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl .

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:45 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com<= /a>) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delori= e.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Erich Heinzie,
> Sorry it took me a long time to answer - problems with a GSM module. >
> I have found a file:
>
> /usr/share/gEDA/gafrc.d/geda-clib.scm
>
> with the content (the next to last line is added by me):
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0("minicircuits" "Mini-Circuits"= )
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0("national" "National Semiconductor&= quot;)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0("philips" "Philips Electronics"= ;)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0("picaxe" "Picaxe chips")
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0("st" "ST Microelectronics") >
> and a file:
>
> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ ls /usr/share/gEDA/sym/philips
> PCA82C250-1.sym=C2=A0 PCF8563-1.sym
> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ ls /usr/share/gEDA/sym/picaxe
> SIP3.fp=C2=A0 SIP4.fp=C2=A0 SO8W.fp
>
> which is reflected in the Gschem selection of component:
>
> > Philips electronics
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0PCA82C250-1.sym
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0PCF8563-1.sym
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Picaxe Chips
>
> However, the "Picaxe chips" does not appear in the same way = as "> Philips electronics" with the subordinate points "S= IP3.fp=C2=A0 SIP4.fp=C2=A0 SO8W.fp". If I click "Picaxe chips&quo= t; I close the screen. Obviously it does not make contact with /usr/share/g= EDA/sym/picaxe, SIP3.fp=C2=A0 SIP4.fp=C2=A0 SO8W.fp
> Can you explain the difference between philips and picaxe?
> torben
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:19 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gma= il.com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl
>>
>> The above link will download the raw symbol file as a .sym for use= in the gschem schematic editor
>>
>> The DIP14 footprint required in the pcb layout editor will be a .f= p file and the raw file can be downloaded from
>>
>>
http://www.ged= asymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl
>>
>> You can place the respective files in the same directory as your s= chematic and pcb layout, but most people will use dedicated directories in = their project directory for symbols and for footprints.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Erich
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 02:34 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT co= m) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda= -help AT delorie DOT com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I found DIP14:
>>>
>>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ cat /home/torben/gEDAsym
>>> http://www.ge= dasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<here
>>>
>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs= .html
>>>
>>> It looks different from your file if I view it..
>>>
>>> Where should I store the file you sent (if it is the file I sh= ould store)?
>>> torben
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (= parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]= <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym=
>>>>
>>>> It looks like the package is a 14-pin DIP, so "DIP14&= quot; should work as the footprint.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> --Chad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:11 AM Torben Friis (fr= iistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi ,
>>>>> I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot= find it. I have been looking for .../newlib and found it in two places, bu= t neither one appeared to provide it.
>>>>> Is there anywhere else I can look for it?
>>>>> torben

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