O= n Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:14 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <ge= da-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

Hi = Chad,
Before I got your reply I had prepared the fo= llowing:
I might add that I have added "picaxe= " to /usr/share/gEDA/sym/ with the following 3 symbols:

SIP3.fp
SIP4= .fp
SO8W.fp

but picaxe does not show up under Library.

I have followed BW's tutorial, but I= do not have a gafrc file. How do I get that?
t= orben

= On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:43 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
Hi Chad,
In gschem I only have "library"= ; to chose symbols from. I wanted more - fx. newlib. How do I get it?
I have used the instructions in:

http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html
to place the following:

torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G: ls /home/= geda
CVS=C2=A0 CVSROOT=C2=A0 scripts=C2=A0 www

where /home/geda w= as an empty directory.

torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/home/geda/scrip= ts$ ls
2pad.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dilpad.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 footprint.pcb=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 reindex
cgi-lib.pl=C2=A0 eps2png=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 global_list.cgi=C2=A0 search.cgi
csv.cgi=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0 make-fp-library=C2=A0 symbol.cgi<= br>CVS=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.html=C2=A0= math.pl=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 symbol.html

Can I get from this= to a more comprehensive list of symbols in gschem? I am stuck.
best reg= ards
torben

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:58 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
=
Hi Chad,
OK. I will try again.
torben

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:45 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-he= lp AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Torben-

The square terminal generally indicates "pin 1" of the d= evice. This is done so that when you're installing the components, you = know the proper orientation. For some parts this is important, like for the= opamps in the design. For other parts, like the resistors, it doesn't = matter, they can go either way.

Part of the fu= n of building a circuit board is figuring out where to place the components= and how to connect them, kind of like a puzzle, but with no one answer. Yo= u can place them however you like. Many people use a strategy where you try= to place the parts such that you minimize the lengths of the traces connec= ting those parts. You could also arrange them in a pattern to resemble a bu= g, or a star, or anything you find aesthetically pleasing. In most cases (i= .e. not radio frequency or high speed (>10s of MHz) digital electronics)= , the exact placement of parts doesn't matter.

=
--Chad

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-hel= p AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi Chad,
Should I place R101, R102 and R103 together? And if I do, should&#= 39;nt R103 have round terminal points at both ends? I assume that the squar= e ones are to be connected to the GND.
I am not an = electronics expert.
torben

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On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM C= had Parker (p= arker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Torben-

Okay, I see what you're referring to.= This is a bug in the tutorial. It looks to me like the first set of figure= s were created with an older version of PCB and the other set with a newer = one and a later date. What likely happened is that the same circuit was use= d, but the schematic was redrawn when the new figures were added, and becau= se the parts would have been arranged differently, the reference designator= s ended up changing. The underlying circuit appears to be the same, just th= e names of the parts have been swapped. You can even see that the footprint= of R101 is different.

Ultimately, the rat lines o= n your pcb should be consistent with the connections you made in the schema= tic. So, as long as you connect your parts accordingly, you should be fine.=

Thanks for pointing this out. We should fix i= t so that it's consistent.

Thanks,
--Chad

On= Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi Chad,
The link= is:

http://w= iki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial
bes= t regards
torben

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (<= a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker.charles= @gmail.com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Torben-

Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial= ? If so, I'm not sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a= link to the tutorial you're referring to?

Thanks,
--Chad

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-hel= p AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi Chad,
I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.
In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6=C2=A0 = R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is place= d where R201 was before.
I have other problems - fx= with lines created in PCB - but I would take one example to see if the con= fusion is my problem.
torben

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM To= rben Friis <friis= tf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
Hi Chad,
I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2= pcb once - and it worked.
torben
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 = PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
=
Hi Torben-

The second time you run gsch2pcb i= t looks at the differences. The first time it may not have picked up all of= the elements due to footprint name errors. The second time (and all subseq= uent times) you run it, it produces board.new.pcb, which contains th= e new elements, so that it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get= them into the layout, you have to do as it says: open the layout then go t= o the file menu, select "load layout data to paste buffer", and s= elect board.new.pcb. Then you can paste them into the layout.

Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb = yet, you can delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.

Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All= Elements, as sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought = into the layout.

Cheers,
--Chad
<= /div>

O= n Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi,
It is rather confusing. When I run gs= ch2pcb project I get:

= ----------------------------------
Done processing.=C2=A0 Work performed= :
5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.

Next = steps:
1.=C2=A0 Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
2.=C2=A0 From within = PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste buffer"
=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into yo= ur existing layout.
3.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "File -> Lo= ad netlist file" and select
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 board.net to load the updated netlist.
<= br>4.=C2=A0 From within PCB, enter

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 to update the pin names of all footprints.

=
First it does not tally with the description given= in the tutorial - I am using the one that comes with Ubuntu.

Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I = get only the transistor and the resistor on the screen with a yellow line l= eading nowhere. Should'nt I get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow = the instructions above I add the one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both= one.sch and two.sch appear to be OK.

As I say, I am confused.
best e= rgards
torben
=
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:4= 6 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
It worked.

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018= at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>= wrote:
Hi Torben-

Welcome to the community!= Please feel free to post any questions you may have.

I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element,= so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should.
=

Looking through the pcb element footprints, there= is, however, a footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will se= rve for your purposes. Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" -->= "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that fixes it.

Thanks,
--Chad

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com= > wrote:
=
Hi,
This is my firs= t attempt at using geda-help.

When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial = I use:

gsch2pcb project

I get the following message in the lo= g:

CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (= value=3Dunknown).
So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.

Th= e attributes of the connector are.

device: BNC
footprint: CONNECT= OR 2 1
refdes: CONN202

I think that I have followed the instructi= ons, so what is wrong?
best regards
torben