X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=mail.ud03.udmedia.de; h= mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to; s=beta; bh=6V5y I7oINyV7LCINLLp3JLAUkH4ohnkoxLfhHQS61g0=; b=SmvYNuaL+NUaWEDyLArb +uNxCPoqbBzJW3ifaVCGUw4ipRwc3r2LlSGBnPUYB4wdgbuLk3cn5fOffemaQ9D1 WtYic9VGQymqhUvoVj/O06kgbhjen7zNY28iFnXKuWtZCAS4NbiahstO2EItm8Qa kXfKyqR/l8RGOVgRJqPIJrM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <2AFD86BE-EA71-4943-BB70-D39D027DF458@noqsi.com> References: <20185814 DOT 6mxDE0FZp3 AT nixdust> <1372368022 DOT 2418 DOT 11 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> <3348230 DOT XCJQHRqQty AT nixdust> <2AFD86BE-EA71-4943-BB70-D39D027DF458 AT noqsi DOT com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <85BD7672-488B-4BCF-8635-A3780E5C9437@jump-ing.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Markus Hitter Subject: Re: [geda-help] Best way to make Power Pins explicitly visible Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:49:44 +0200 To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Am 28.06.2013 um 19:02 schrieb John Doty: > Unfortunately, everybody's flow is a little different. Yes, this is indeed unfortunate. Lots of wasted time and knowledge. > Small project approaches don't scale well to big projects, while > big project fussiness gets in the way of small projects. Good approaches can deal with both. In CAD, drawing a cube in low end FreeCAD is about the same procedure as in high end Catia. Actually, I consider a low entry barrier to be one of the most important features of software today. Such things aren't that difficult: shine on the prefered workflow and get rid of the rest. Prominent examples: we still have these m4 footprints, just confusing people. We have a dozen footprint editors, but no one integrated. gschem has different default mouse handling than pcb and both have it different from standard applications. Part symbols have neither simulation data nor footprint choices, you have to know how to change that. And so on. Most of this stuff exists, because people have developed different habits and they have these habits because the software allows to keep them. Contrary to many developers I consider this diversity to be a bad thing. > The power of the toolkit approach is that it can accommodate all > this diversity reasonably well. But that requires that users take > some initiative, learn the capabilities of the tools, and expect > that the cookbook tutorials will need some interpretation to work > in their own flow. Yes, and this required learning curve is the wasteful, unproductive part. Because these efforts would be much better invested in the task actually to be done: designing a schematics, simulating a circuit, drawing a layout. Before you cringe about flexibility, please look at Linux' 2D printing as an example: normal users can just click the "print" button and get a sheet of paper printed. Expert users can dive into the chain of tools, replace or modify parts of them and get exactly the arrangement of pixels they want. Pretty good example where newbies are just as productive as experts. Umh, the initial question was about the lack of documentation ... well, if software needs more documentation than tooltips in the GUI and comments in the source code, there's something wrong with this software, so having no documentation is entirely fine. IMO, of course. Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. (FH) Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/