X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mailnull set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f From: Hans-Bernhard Broeker Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: DJGPP + Win... Date: 29 Apr 2002 15:20:46 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology (RWTH) Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <1020029849 DOT 840397 AT queeg DOT ludd DOT luth DOT se> <3ccd412c$0$4039$9b622d9e AT news DOT freenet DOT de> <3ccd4e98$0$4043$9b622d9e AT news DOT freenet DOT de> NNTP-Posting-Host: acp3bf.physik.rwth-aachen.de X-Trace: nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE 1020093646 8346 137.226.32.75 (29 Apr 2002 15:20:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse AT rwth-aachen DOT de NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Apr 2002 15:20:46 GMT Originator: broeker@ To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com deckerben wrote: >> It's not "limited" to Win32 any more than DJGPP is limited to a DOS >> environment. Win32 just *is* its environment. > Uhhhh... limited... let's see here ... I take my DOS program and try in on > Windows 3.1. Does it run? Yup. Not limited here. [...] > Win32 apps? Uhhhh... who did you say was limited? You were using the word "limited" in two opposite meanings in a single sentence, in your earlier posting. Cygwin definitely is not "limited to Win32"; that's simply the platform it's meant for. Neither is it limited _on_ Win32: it can access about the full set of features offered for that platform. The same two statements hold for DJGPP, but with respect to DOS as the platform. I was arguing mainly about the "limited on" part of it. OTOH DJGPP definitely *is* limited on NT and its siblings, and also (in other ways) on Windows 3.1 and 9x. Those limitations come either as outright bugs in the DPMI services provided by those platforms, or as sometimes hard-to-believe denial of service, like NT4 which doesn't let a DOS app access long filenames, although the system itself supports them quite nicely. And of course, you plain and simply can't create a graphical Windows app with DJGPP (RSXNTDJ doesn't count --- it's a separate project), which is about as severe a limitation as one could possibly imagine, for most people. To sum it up: DJGPP and Cygwin serve similar purposes, but on strictly different target platforms. -- Hans-Bernhard Broeker (broeker AT physik DOT rwth-aachen DOT de) Even if all the snow were burnt, ashes would remain.