From: AndrewJ Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: WATCOM vs. DJGPP Message-ID: <2bcgoscdourgcs82q739fq41sajpd2ddov@4ax.com> References: <8m4077$bhi$2 AT news DOT clinet DOT fi> <8m4r34$7md$1 AT ctb-nnrp2 DOT saix DOT net> <3986CB73 DOT 5627D917 AT iperbole DOT bologna DOT it> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 45 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:41:56 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.42.120.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse AT home DOT net X-Trace: news2.rdc1.on.home.com 965227316 24.42.120.18 (Wed, 02 Aug 2000 07:41:56 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 07:41:56 PDT Organization: Excite AT Home - The Leader in Broadband To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com [snip] >This is true. Sybase/Powersoft published Optima++ which was based >on Watcom 11.0 c++ compiler. The have stopped supporting it >officially for a couple of years. Ah, misinformed student. Giacomo is right on one count, Sybase has stopped support for Watcom C/C++ (and all related development tools) as of a month or so ago (IIRC). They have also stopped making the software, period. It has been End-Of-Life'd. Chances of actually finding a copy any more are pretty slim, but there are a few companies online who still sell it (try http://www.greymatter.co.uk). The compiler was last updated, to 11.0b, over two years ago. There are current plans to release a final, web only, 11.0c patch, but this requires you to already have an 11.0b disc. There are also talks to release the compiler source code under some sort of OpenSource type license, but there's been no word one way or the other on this yet... Do not mail Sybase about it, since they'll probably ignore you. >This means that it could be difficult to find a place where >you can buy it and, most important, it will not be upgraded >to recent c++ features. True. And it is bug-ridden. Not too bad, but I've managed to crash 11.0 on a few occasions with badly formed code. >> Anyway, get DJGPP - you will NOT find better end-user support anywhere... This is true. These days if you want to develop PMode DOS apps, DJGPP is the only way to go. The price is unbeatable, and the support in this group is phenomenal. If you decide to go with DJGPP, please make sure you read the FAQ in its entirety (at least twice! ;), as many of the problems people come to this group looking for answers to could be easily solved through this simple action. -------- Andrew J "This is a wonderful answer. It's off-topic, it's incorrect, and it doesn't answer the question." - Richard Heathfield.