Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:10:37 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: <200006111440.UAA15203@bgl2.vsnl.net.in> From: Prashant TR To: eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il CC: djgpp AT delorie DOT com, pmode AT egroups DOT com In-reply-to: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:11:15 +0300 (IDT)) Subject: Re: far pointers References: Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: djgpp AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > > > But that's also not very accurate: V86 is not PM, although it's > > > close. > > > > No, V86 *is* PM, and programs in V86 run at PL3. And that's why you > > still have all the protection there inspite of running (simulating) > > the dangerous real-mode programs. > > I don't get it: are you saying that V86 is identical to PM? I think it > isn't, but if you think it is, why do you mention it as a separate mode > in your text? V86 *is* PM, but it is of a different kind. And that's why it's mentioned separately. Protected Mode is of 5 types: PL0-3 and VM86. > > > For newbies' sake, I'd suggest to make this distinction very clear (if > > > you at all mention V86, which I'm not sure is a good idea). > > > > Ok, so what do you suggest this should be? > > Try to avoid saying "protected mode" when you mean V86. > > > But FYI, myself and Alexi did decide to include *everything* about > > protected-mode including writing extenders. But then, it definitely > > won't come anywhere in the introduction. > > Yes, that's a different (although interesting and useful) project. > > Try to avoid reinventing the Intel manual ;-). No, it won't happen that way. The Intel Manual doesn't have examples that are good enough for people to learn. This is one of the things we'd like to include.