Message-ID: <37AA69E3.2A1C7220@megsinet.net> From: David Oppenheimer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: SV: RawHIDE References: <37A9C270 DOT AF35B1B9 AT megsinet DOT net> <37A9EEC4 DOT C2C957 AT megsinet DOT net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 43 Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 00:51:49 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.214.124.63 X-Trace: news.corecomm.net 933915112 216.214.124.63 (Thu, 05 Aug 1999 23:51:52 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 23:51:52 CDT To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com Dear Peter, One of the options you set when configuring DFE is the location of the debugger, which on my computer puts the path as C:\DJGPP\bin\gdb.exe. A message window runs in the background which lets you see any error messages when you try to run a program. I must say that complexity and number of features is way lower on my list of priorities as compared to simplicity and ease of use. I can best explain my position using the "VCR analogy." Yes, there are those people who want a VCR with 5 million features and have the time and willingness to read a thick manual to try and understand how to use it (in the case of RHIDE, frustrated users post frequent questions to which they are mostly referred to FAQ's as if the questions are inconsequential or bothersome). Then there are those types of people who just want to stick in a tape and hit the play button (these types of people are more interested in compiling and running a program than they are in learning how to master an IDE and interpret the numerous error messages they get). I have read some of the messages concerning RawHIDE and people will remark about how much time they spent looking through documentation, then posting questions to the news group and are still having problems compiling and running a simple "Hello World" program!!! The documentation associated with the DFE95 program is quite slim, yet without any outside assistance, I was able to download it, configure it, and compile and run a "Hello World" program in less than 20 minutes. I believe that downloading RawHIDE alone took nearly as long. To each his own. As I stated before, DFE95 is for those who would rather spend time coding than learning how to use an IDE. David Oppenheimer Peter Lewerin wrote: > > (these two improvements would make DFE the undeniable choice as the best > IDE for DJGPP programming). > > Oh yeah? Correct me if I'm wrong, but DFE still can't run a debugger, > right? If so, it can't even be considered a candidate for the title. > > It's well and good that you love DFE, but try to be a little more objective. > RHIDE is still a more powerful tool than DFE, and like all powerful tools, > it's sometimes hard to use. Simple does not always equal better, though.