From: farich AT vnet DOT net (Fred A Richard) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: DJGPP and windows? Message-ID: <3605b8b2.5618219@news.vnet.net> References: <6shli3$ke4$1 AT news DOT cin DOT net> <35F6C16C DOT 1AF8 AT cableol DOT co DOT uk> <3600A9DB DOT EAA61280 AT mailexcite DOT com> <6tr5dv$vmb$1 AT nnrp1 DOT dejanews DOT com> <36015224 DOT 32CF AT cableol DOT co DOT uk> <3604E9CE DOT C06EBADD AT mailexcite DOT com> Lines: 83 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 02:25:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.82.121.31 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:26:31 EDT Organization: Vnet Internet Access To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Precedence: bulk Doug Gale wrote: > > >Allens wrote: > >> edwards AT cisunix DOT unh DOT edu wrote: >> >> >> > I recently attempted to try out RSXNTDJ, but it kept claiming that I didn't >> > have windows.h or something, and all of the directories were set incorrectly, >> > etc. So I just quit trying and deleted the thing from my system, in my >> > typical no-patience-for-anything manner. I think I'm ready to retry RSXNTDJ >> > now, though. Is there anything I need to download other than the RSXNTDJ zip >> > file to make a functioning 32-bit program? Also, why is "NT" in the name of >> > the file? Don't tell me it's only for Windows NT. >> >> ----snip------ >> >> It is for win9x or nt, and in my and others expieriance it doesn't work. Doug Gale >> though, has got it to work, so try it if you want. >> >> Peter Allen > >Hello. To answer your question, yes, you need to download more than just rsxntdj.zip. >You will need these two programs from Microsoft's website: > >itools.exe >ibldenv.exe > >(You might have to fill out a questionaire if you haven't been to the developers part >of the MS website before) > >itools is the tools, which is mainly useful for the bitmap/icon/cursor editor, and the >dialog editor. >ibldenv.exe is all the headers you need for Windows. > >After installing both these programs (they are self-extracting-setup-program style), >copy the include directory from where you installed ibldenv into rsxntdj/include/mssdk. >Here, run the patch program... > >I have already patched my headers (obviously), and would be willing to zip them up and >send them to you pre-patched. (I did have to screw around a bit to get the patch to >work). In this case, you wouldn't need ibldenv.exe (you wouldn't NEED itools.exe either >then, but the dialog editor really helps if you build a GUI program). > >I realize that rsxntdj is harder to install than djgpp, and that is the reason for it's >bad reputation, but look at how many people have problems with djgpp installation. > >I would like to be able to make a new patch file for the headers as I have eliminated >some warnings in the headers. Can anyone suggest a good text-based patching program >(for creating 'diffs')? > >Is anyone out there maintaining rsxntdj? I have a modified specs file with a major fix >in the linking part. This oversight in the rsxntdj distribution caused even the >hello-world example to have linker errors. I would like to redistribute a new specs >file and patch for the headers. Any objections? > > Since I've just started trying to teach myself Windows programming -- just downloaded the new version of RSXNTDJ and I've tried to download the microsoft package ibldenv.exe (I didn't know the itools.exe package was also required, but I'll get it too), but the microsoft ftp server cut me off. I'll get it one day this week at work where we have fast net access. I'd be interested in seeing your "modified specs file" you mention above. One other question. The lab at the school where I work uses Win3.11 on the machines. RSXNTDJ can develop for Win 3.x, but only if Win32s is loaded. Is Win32s still available somewhere on the 'net? If not, do you know of a way to use DJGPP to develop Win 3.x programs? Thanks. -- Fred A. Richard Lincolnton,NC 28092-8238 farich AT vnet DOT net "I would have written a shorter letter, but I didn't have the time". --Ernest Hemingway