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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:15:34
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il>
From: Ralph Proctor <ralphgpr AT shadow DOT net>
Subject: Re: Teaching a child to program in C
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At 06:46 PM 9/9/98 +0300, you wrote:
>
>On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Ralph Proctor wrote:
>
>> In addition to LOGO, for the youngster do you object to my idea of
>> line-numbered BASIC as being of value?
>
>IMHO, every language can teach something.  But Basic is not much easier
>than C or Pascal, and like C, it maintains the distinction between code
>and data, which I think causes youngsters to be brainwashed into thinking
>that that's how things really are.  LOGO is free from these problems.  It
>is IMHO much easier to go from LOGO to C or Pascal than the other way
>around. 

Eli: I am sure what you say is true. But how about that letter from Derek
Greene (14 years old)?

I'm taking a good look at MSWLOGO. It's free. The MS stands for "Multiple
Sclerosis"--seriously. MS is to be supported, if possible, by the
downloader. A very nice and comprehensive site for LOGO. I'm not sure what
"UCBLOGO is not provided--you must get it from Brian Harvey" means. I guess
UCBLOGO is a sort of  ur-text logo--I haven't found it yet. But the MSWLOGO
sure looks good enough to start with.

The only LOGO I ever worked with was for the Apple ][.

Ralph