Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:42:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: ".ASM SoftWare Systems" <rdc AT freenet DOT vancouver DOT bc DOT ca>
Subject: Re: Info on future enh. to FSF gcc, not djgpp (unoffical providor)
To: Bill Davidson <bdavidson AT ra DOT isisnet DOT com>
Cc: djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu

On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Bill Davidson wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 3 Apr 1995, .ASM SoftWare Systems wrote:
> 
> >   They are not expending great efforts to support MSDOS ;>
> 
> Well, why would they?  I mean, really, aren't we all flogging a dead 
> horse?  Sure, djgpp gives us a way to do useful work under DOS, but DOS 
> IS DEAD!!  Hasn't anybody noticed?  Windoze is now the API of choice, 

[snip chewing, swallowing, digestion and excreting of my head]


> I've been programming under DOS (in C and asm) for a few years now, but 
> there just isn't any sense in it any more. (Pardon me if I don't delete 
> djgpp _quite_ yet! -- *sob, sniffle*)
> (flames welcome -- tell me I'm wrong!)
> Bill Davidson
> bdavidson AT ra DOT isisnet DOT com
> 
> 

  Tell you you are wrong ...

  OK

  You are wrong ...



  I'll re-quote so you'll re-read:

  They are not expending great efforts to support MSDOS ;>


  Please note the _LAST_ _TWO_ characters on the line and the content of
the sentance itself. Get someone to help you with this.



  In defense of your comments _AGAINST_ DOS:

-  This is a "DOS" mailing list you voice your opinions upon.
-  DOS is a microkernal.
-  Chkdsk shells out of the com program I'm running (Telemate) and reports
that I have 581344 bytes free (With QEMM off so I could run Windoze /3).
-  The djgpp port is intended for DOS get GCC and port it yourself for OS/2.


 It works for me ...

 I believe _MY_ OS of choice would either be UNIX (real) from Novell _OR_
(specifically) BSD386 - I hate Windows, I have it because some people can
only program in Visual Basic and it's not worth my time writing a Graphics
package that integrates with my FAX software myself. Thus 5M = 500K program.

 A solid following for IBM's ideas went out the windowz with the introduction
of Microchannel - This does not mean Warp is poor; had they gone for FULL
Windows support _I_ _WOULD_ _HAVE_ _PURCHASED_ it, really.

I don't need Novell Unix today ...  Just what I have ...



So:
-  When I use djgpp program on my crummy 16-Bits OS I have 32-Bit C features.

 With _MY_ 15 years programming experience (mostly in .ASM, funny eh) I don't
think I'm too far behind by using a 32-Bit compiler on a 16Bit OS than to
be part of the vbrunx00.dll crowd with thier 32-Bit whale out of water code.

Ever see:
-  A Unix Extender ... that was a few years ago ...  It ran DOS in a shell.

 This was AT&T Unix (at that time the "Real" thing) and a common OS 
extension - The only one (for a OS, file sys ext Need Not Apply) ...