Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 11:06:28 -0500
From: Charles_Sandmann AT f42 DOT n109 DOT z1 DOT fidonet DOT org (Charles Sandmann)
Subject: RFD: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
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From: sandmann AT clio DOT rice DOT edu (Charles Sandmann)
To: djgpp-announce AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu

                        REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

Proposed Group:  comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Status:          unmoderated
Distribution:    world-wide
Proposer:        Charles Sandmann <sandmann AT clio DOT rice DOT edu>
Mentor:          Afzal Ballim <afzal AT divsun DOT unige DOT ch>
Gateway:         to mailing list djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu

Alternate Names: comp.os.msdos.programmer.djgpp, comp.os.djgpp,
gnu.djgpp,
                 comp.os.msdos.gnu.djgpp, comp.os.msdos.gnu-djgpp

Proposed Newsgroup line:
comp.os.msdos.djgpp  DOS GNU C/C++ applications and programming

CHARTER:

comp.os.msdos.djgpp will be a newsgroup dedicated to all aspects of
DJGPP, which is a port of several GNU utilities and development tools
to DOS.  Areas which would be welcome for discussion:

1. Support for applications compiled with this package
2. Installation and configuration advice
3. Help with environment specific features, such as hardware interrupts
4. Advice on porting code to this environment and status of ports
5. Discussions on adding features and new releases
6. Brief (20 lines or less) announcements of new or major release
   commercial/shareware/freeware products, with a pointer to 
   web/ftp/email for more information.  Products may be briefly 
   mentioned in replies to specific problems.

Areas which would be inappropriate:

1. Material which is covered in the FAQ (available from
oak.oakland.edu:
   /pub/msdos/djgpp/faq100.zip and other simtel mirrors).  A mini-FAQ
   with a pointer to the full FAQ will be posted weekly.
2. Questions or bug reports on GNU code not specific to DJGPP.  If the
   user cannot determine if a bug is DJGPP specific, an brief initial
   posting would be acceptable.
3. General programming questions.

RATIONALE:

There are hundreds of useful utilities (and thousands of programmers)
which
use DJGPP to avoid the 640K memory barrier under DOS.  Users often
require
additional help getting this environment to work under the various 
combinations of memory managers and DOS emulation environments (such
as OS/2, Windows, Windows NT).

This subject is currently supported by a mailing list, which has over
500
subscribers (some of which are local mail exploders and
mail-to-local-news 
gateways) and currently averages 26 messages per day (which has doubled
each
year since 1992).  There are an additional 500 subscribers to
djgpp-announce,
which announces new ports and availability of new releases of the
software. 
The heavy traffic has caused a loss of readership, and a newsgroup
would
enhance the ability to cross reference related information in other
related
groups.  A group in the comp.os.msdos hierarchy would enhance the
awareness of
DOS users to the available applications and tools.

The proposed newsgroup will be linked to the djgpp mailing list through
a bi-directional gateway to provide for users without news access.  The
gateway software (and node) have already been tested.


PROCEDURE:

This RFD is being issued in accordance with the guidelines set in the
"How To Create A Usenet Group" FAQ regularly posted to
news.announce.newsgroups. Please refer to this article if you have any
questions about newsgroup creation.

Please post any responses to this message in news.groups.  If you use
the followup feature on your newsreader, this should happen
automatically.  
ALL discussion about the merits of this proposal should appear on
news.groups.

Unless the discussion indicates a need to resubmit a new RFD, a Call
For 
Votes (CFV) will be posted approximately four weeks after posting of
this RFD.

Please do not post any votes--When the CFV is posted, instructions will
be given out on how to mail your mail to the Independent Vote Counter.

This RFD will be (cross)-posted to the following groups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
comp.os.msdos.misc
comp.os.msdos.programmer
comp.lang.c
comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
comp.compilers
gnu.misc.discuss

and to the mailing list djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu.

To subscribe to djgpp, send e-mail to listserv AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu and
in the message body put "add your-email-address djgpp" (without the
quotes). 
To unsubscribe to djgpp, send e-mail to the same address with the body
"delete your-email-address djgpp".

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