Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 17:37:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Edwin Phillips Subject: mail failed, returning to sender (fwd) To: DJGPP mailing list Every time I send mail to the DJGPP list lately, I get two copies. One is from clarkson (normal) and the other is below. Maybe rfaria AT 137 DOT 215 DOT 18 DOT 12 needs to be removed from the list? Ed /****************************************************************************/ /* Ed Phillips flaregun AT strauss DOT udel DOT edu University of Delaware */ /* Jr Systems Programmer (302) 831-6082 IT/Network and Systems Services */ /****************************************************************************/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 23:25 WET From:MAILER-DAEMON AT ns DOT up DOT ac DOT za To: flaregun AT strauss DOT udel DOT edu Subject: mail failed, returning to sender |------------------------- Message log follows: -------------------------| no valid recipients were found for this message |------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------| ... unknown host |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------| Received: from dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za by ns.up.ac.za with smtp (Smail3.1.27.1 #3) id m0qNpKD-0000ZlC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 23:25 WET Received: from DOS-LAN/MAILQ by dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za (Mercury 1.11); Wed, 13 Jul 94 23:19:58 GMT+2 Received: from MAILQ by DOS-LAN (Mercury 1.11); Wed, 13 Jul 94 23:19:36 GMT+2 Received: from rkw-risc.cs.up.ac.za by dos-lan.cs.up.ac.za (Mercury 1.11); Wed, 13 Jul 94 23:19:35 GMT+2 Received: from omnigate.clarkson.edu by rkw-risc.cs.up.ac.za (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA27989; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 23:19:47 +0200 Received: from sun.soe.clarkson.edu by omnigate.clarkson.edu with SMTP (PP) id <14056-0 AT omnigate DOT clarkson DOT edu>; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 17:14:02 -0400 Received: by sun.soe.clarkson.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10537; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:17:16 EDT Received: from strauss.udel.edu by sun.soe.clarkson.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10533; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:17:14 EDT Received: (from flaregun AT localhost) by strauss.udel.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) id QAA09824; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 16:13:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 16:13:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Edwin Phillips Subject: Suggestions To: DJGPP mailing list In-Reply-To: <9407131453 DOT AA12072 AT acds DOT physik DOT rwth-aachen DOT de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Jul 1994, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > My suggestion: > The further development of DJGPP should aim on making gcc available > for WIN3.x, NT and Chicago (WIN32(s)) and making it possible to link to the > WIN API libraries, either by supplying a compatible linker or by other > means like converting tools for the MS object/library formats. This sounds like a lot of work ;) It would be nice to be able to write a DJGPP/Windows program, but I don't like Windows programs. There long and messy and have a lot of "char far *"'s and "LPSTR" and that nonsense. That's why I quit Borland and switched to DJ! If I want to malloc(1M), I'll do it, and set a "char *" to point to it and use it! One thing that _would_ be nice is an API that _uses_ the Windows calls, but provides a simple programming interface. Like what libsx does for Xt and Xaw. > > Also supplying good, fast, native implementations of the unix shell and > text utilities is a task to be solved. starting ls in a dos box and > waiting two to four seconds until the dpmi memory is allocated (these > 2MB or something) is not fun. > I'm all for this! I hate not having a egrep or sed or awk. I know that they all exist (somewhere), but they should be made part of the binutils (contributed). All we need is to get sources and build them using DJGPP, and put them in. Then we know that they work with the DJGPP distribution, gcc, make, etc. I'd even be willing to try and find time to give it a shot. As a matter of fact I'm looking for "less", to port to the RS6K, which would be a good opportunity to just go ahead and build it for DJ as well. There has also been a lot of talk about recursive make's and memory woes. I like the idea of modifying make to not spawn() itself, just saving what it's doing and "starting over". Has anyone determined if this is feasible? Has anyone got a good "sh"-like interpreter that we could port for DJGPP? Might be a good COMMAND.COM replacement (avoidance) to use while developing and compiling. Or all the time for that matter. This would cost some precious memory, of course. Ed /****************************************************************************/ /* Ed Phillips flaregun AT strauss DOT udel DOT edu University of Delaware */ /* Jr Systems Programmer (302) 831-6082 IT/Network and Systems Services */ /****************************************************************************/