From: dlgreen AT dang DOT b17a DOT ingr DOT com (Daniel L. Green)
Subject: Re:  Win_nt vs OS2
To: kuku AT acds DOT physik DOT rwth-aachen DOT de (Christoph Kukulies)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 93 13:12:10 CST
Cc: djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu, pt90ob AT pt DOT hk-r DOT se, gnu-objc AT prep DOT ai DOT mit DOT edu
Reply-To: dlgreen AT ingr DOT com (Daniel L. Green)
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Quite a while back, Christopher Kukulies said:
> >Which one will you GNU people like best?
>
> My answer: None of both worlds.
>
> If you are an IBMer you'd prefer OS/2, if you are a DECie, you'd say NT.
> That's my opinion.
>
> I believe that presently OS/2 is an interesting platform for GNU
> development because there may be more ported GNU software available.
> Under NT presently MSC 7.0 C/C++ is the only choice you have. Or has
> GCC been ported?

  I missed any responses to this question.  Does anyone have plans to
port GCC to Windows NT, or is NT being shunned because of Microsoft?

  I have heard the following pseudo-rumors:

  1) NeXT is going to unbundle their compiler and Objective-C runtime from 
     NeXTSTEP and work on "Portable Distributed Objects" (PDO), which will be
     compatible with the GNU Objective-C runtime.  The platforms to
     which PDO will be ported are SPARC, HP, RS/6000 and Intel.
     Additionally, it would be portable to Windows NT.

  2) Novell, Apple and IBM are discussing an initiative to provide an
     alternative to Microsoft's Object Linking and Embedding 2.0
     specification. The proposed coalition will work in parallel with
     efforts by the larger--and more bureaucratic--Object Management
     Group (OMG) to establish vendor-neutral and multiplatform object
     standards. The effort has been fueled by concerns that OLE 2.0 is
     narrowly focused on Windows and compound documents and that
     Microsoft could have an edge implementing the technology. The
     group is likely to promote object standards compatible with the
     OMG's work and based on technology already under development at
     Novell, Apple and IBM, among others, they said. Target delivery
     dates for the resulting APIs is the third quarter, with tool kits
     to ship sometime after that.

  If anyone has any information on a port GCC to NT (32 bit clean,
not under the DOS/Win subsystem), or ideas or a plan for making GNU
Objective-C or some implementation of Distributed Objects available under NT, 
please post to the list.

> In the long run I believe that MS has the better kernel.
>
> The 486/386 world is an open world. Everyone's invited to pioneer a new OS
> on that platform. See 386BSD, LINUX, NextStep/Mach.
>
> Just some thoughts to initiate a discussion.
>
> --Chris

  Thanks!

  Best regards,

-- DanG
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