From: lhall AT rfk DOT com (Larry Hall RFK Partners, Inc) Subject: Re: Answer to your text == binary question 22 Jan 1999 09:21:23 -0800 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990122115309.0095b600.cygnus.cygwin32.developers@pop.ma.ultranet.com> References: <19990122112751 DOT A27221 AT cygnus DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Christopher Faylor , Geoffrey Noer Cc: cygwin32-developers AT cygnus DOT com At 11:27 AM 1/22/99 -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:21:11AM -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote: >> 1. If modes can be easily reset on automounts BEFORE the user actually >> uses, any pre-defined default mode is adequate. > >I think that it should be something like: > > mount -b --change-automount-root /larry-cygwin-drives > >> 2. If modes cannot be set on some/any automounts before the user uses it, >> we need a way to remove this limitation. > >The limitation is to use regular mount in that case. > >> 3. The mechanism to remove the limitation should be simple to use and >> preferably not introduce new syntax if possible while not muddying >> existing conventions. > >Well the automount-root (on reflection this is probably a confusing >name because it sounds like it has something to do with "/") certainly >is a change but I think that it has the ability to do the right thing >in a way that makes sense. > >I regret that CYGWIN=binmode behavior ever polluted disk mounts. >That wasn't what I intended and was, from my perspective, a bug. > >-chris OK, I think my concern was that the "automount" would happen "on-the-fly" in certain cases (something similar to when the user addresses a partition with the current "drive" syntax of "///"). In these cases, it may not be possible to change the mode before the user performs the desired operation (at least for the first one). For example, the user can currently do something like "cp //d/foo ." My understanding of what Geoffrey was saying is that this will change to "cp d:/foo ." (or something similar... I lost his original message now!:-() with a mount being created for d:/ in /cygdrive. If this is the case, there needs to be a way to specify the user's default preference for the mode of this mount so that even the "cp" command gets it right. If after the fact, the mount still exists (and it sounds like it would), it would then be possible to change the mode for subsequent uses but this is both cumbersome and, more importantly, doesn't help the "cp". Reading through your responses, I was struck by the idea that you were suggesting that the things mounted under the "automount" root would assume the mode of the root. If this is the case, it is like the "/" idea that Earnie and Corinna liked, although I like it better since it relates specifically to the mounts which are "automounted" (where "/" may have been remounted for a different purpose and may not reflect the user's default mode preference for "automounts"). Assuming that this "automount" root can be created and/or set apriori and that its mode would be the default for all things under it, I think that addresses my concern. If it was not your intention to imply this Chris, forgive me for putting words in your mouth! It may still be a good idea though!;-) Did I miss a point of yours relative to the long-winded discussion of my concern? Larry Hall lhall AT rfk DOT com RFK Partners, Inc. (781) 239-1053 8 Grove Street (781) 239-1655 Wellesley, MA, 02482-7797 http://www.rfk.com