Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm list-help: list-post: Sender: cygwin-apps-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-apps AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:11:59 -0400 From: Chris Faylor To: Earnie Boyd Cc: Michael Ring , cygwin-apps AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Subject: Re: RFD: Include an easy editor in the cygwin-standard-distribution Message-ID: <20000602141159.A1589@cygnus.com> Reply-To: cygwin-apps AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Mail-Followup-To: Earnie Boyd , Michael Ring , cygwin-apps AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com References: <20000602170802 DOT 28247 DOT qmail AT web113 DOT yahoomail DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000602170802.28247.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com>; from earnie_boyd@yahoo.com on Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:08:02AM -0700 On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:08:02AM -0700, Earnie Boyd wrote: >> Editing a file (or explaining how to) can get complicated with vim or >> emacs; why make it more complicated than neccessary? > >I understand your need for wanting the editing of files to be as simple as >possible when explaining to the "I want to learn UNIX using Cygwin" folks. >It's just that they're not going to learn the UNIX utilities if you use >something different. I agree with this. The problem is that there is also a "I just want a free Windows C compiler" contingent. In general, those people take a back seat to what I consider the main thrust of Cygwin but, unfortunately, they do comprise a significant portion of Red Hat's customers (not that you all have to worry about that) and they are at least a recognizable percentage of net users. Maybe we need an easy to use editor for the non-UNIX people and a standard vi and emacs offering for the people who are UNIX-aware. Or, maybe we need to incorporate one of the IDEs for the "Windows C compiler" people... cgf